So turns out pandering doesn’t work but holding kids accountable does. Who would’ve thought…

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  1. SS

    People are people. If we tell them they were born victims they give up

    If we tell them they are expected to succeed they do that

    Link to the OP https://x.com/JoshWilliamsOH/status/2021283137431437726

    Source of the claim

    https://x.com/sarthakgh/status/2020964984906449357

    “A Black Mississippi child is two and a half times as likely to be proficient in reading by fourth grade as a Black California child.”

    “…states with large increases in school test scores enjoyed rising incomes and drops in teen motherhood, incarceration and arrest rates…”

  2. Another day in America, another day wasted fighting over who can pay the hardest tribute to its least productive, most costly demographic 

  3. I thought NCLB was a republican thing, since it was GWB’s big education reform?

    But overall, it’s not “holding kids back” that has lead to Mississippi’s sharp increase in literacy rates, though it may be helping. They’ve also been following….scientifically proven methods like phonics-based learning and focusing on teaching literacy in the first three years of education. The third-grade “gate” was only part of their methodology.

    Overall “just hold kids back” without a target educational threshold (key word: without, Mississippi HAS a target) did historically lead to worse outcomes, hence Bush’s initial “no child left behind” plan – something that was still in place nationwide until *after* Mississippi started their literacy improvement plan. At the time they implemented the plan, they were 49th in the nation for literacy.

    Now of course, you COULD use words like “PANDERING” and post a twitter screenshot of a person trying very very hard to make it a left vs right issue, but holding children back is only a small small piece of the overall improvement, as the rest of their plan and goals (see: using evidence-based teaching methods and phonics-first language learning in addition to focusing ONLY on learning literacy in the first few years) has actually done a lot more than holding students back.

    Additionally, if you look at the states with third grade benchmark laws (like Mississippi) …. California, one of the states the tweet is comparing Mississippi to, has the same exact law where if a child is still illiterate at the end of third grade, they are held back. Now, how could that possibly be if California is one of the evil liberal states that just passes every child who has a pulse, like the tweet you screenshot is implying?

    Maybe, just maybe, “just hold dumb kids back” isn’t the only part of the Mississippi solution that’s driving them forward? MAYBE it’s the phonics based teaching that follows actual educational science?

  4. Pretend_Meet_88 on

    LMAO this belongs in the leopards ate my face:

    Relying on [federally supported research](https://ies.ed.gov/use-work/regional-educational-laboratories-rel/southeast) from the [Institute of Education Science](https://theconversation.com/helping-teachers-learn-what-works-in-the-classroom-and-what-doesnt-will-get-a-lot-harder-without-the-department-of-educations-institute-of-education-sciences-247675), the state invested in [phonics, fluency, vocabulary and reading comprehension](https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED613758). The law provided K-3 teachers with training and support to help students master reading by the end of third grade.

    Guess what Trump shutdown?

  5. How come I’ve never used math beyond addition, subtraction, multiplication and division yet you have to learn Algebra and all other kinds of bullshit that you’ll never use in real life to pass school?

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