I've suspected for a while that the phones can somehow read brainwaves for advertising. It doesn't happen all the time so I've kind of let it slide, perhaps wilfully thinking 'ok the algo for ads is probably just good' even though it's figured out something I've never spoken around it before

e.g. I was on a part of the property thinking 'hmm a zipline from there to there would be good' . Next time I go to check my phone, within minutes there are ads for ziplines.

However today was extra odd. It wasn't an ad and it wasn't a product. I was driving and thinking 'All religions seem to have -ism at the end but Christianity is an -ity, why isn't it Christian-ism? I wonder what the difference is'

Couple of hours later I arrive at destination and am on Tiktok. 3 videos in, it's a video where a lady is talking to a Hindu asking him if he'd convert to Christian-ism.

I'd think that's quite a niche phrase and my feed is not usually about religion so I'm thinking the phones can read brain waves when it's super 'quiet' because most of the time if it's probably quite 'noisy' to pick up on singular thoughts for the algo – at least for now.

I've seen other people on here this has happened to. Has anyone torn down telemetry data from the phones? What sensors do you suspect are being used? It's an S20 phone so I'm thinking it could be as mundane as the normal phone signal module or wifi module. I don't know enough about the sensors or what frequency thoughts are transmitting at.

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  1. this happens to me all the time, i just assume it has so much information on me that it can now really predict what my next thoughts are. scary stuff. i live alone so i never say out loud what im thinking either

  2. Serious question. When do you believe this tech began i.e. which version of the iphone or whatever was the first to have the ability to do it? Does having an old phone keep you safe from this?

  3. Algorithms based on search history and I’m pretty sure microphones are on but I guess only AI is listening for key words (I hope), and tuning things to what you’ve looked up and some things you might’ve said. If it was reading my mind, it’d probably turn itself off, and how would an inanimate object read a mind? We barely understand the mind.

  4. Or perhaps it doesn’t quite suck up brainwave data through a module but rather broadcast a UWB like radar and pick up the changes in brain activity, feed it into AI to clean up the noise and so it can pick up on singular , ‘quiet’ thoughts. This would be similar to the router ‘seeing’ people around the house – so more radary

  5. Yea it’s happen to me multiple times and come to think of it it was quite both times.
    I know it sounds crazy but I do believe it.

  6. I don’t know about brainwaves, but I’m pretty sure they are reading our facial expressions and micro-reactions to whatever we see online.

    Not literal mind reading, but it’s a well developed science and it explains all this face-ID tech they’re pushing on us with every new phone and device.

    Want to know how a person feels about a specific candidate or product, or who harbors animosity towards a specific country? Just hit them with a set of cues in their feed and read their reactions, which may be so small that they wouldn’t be consciously seen by a human in front of them.

    [https://www.paulekman.com/facial-action-coding-system/](https://www.paulekman.com/facial-action-coding-system/)

  7. Simple-Process-8185 on

    Humans just don’t understand how programmed they are.
    Data collection and advertising, tailored for the individual.
    You.

  8. Ever wondered why are they making bigger phones? So that you need to use two hands more often while using the phone, essentially forming a closed circuit with your phone and your body, conducting the brain signals to your phone much more accurately and efficiently.

    Every single thing is now an instrument for more than one purpose.

    *fixes his tinfoil hat*

  9. Set up a Google ads account and Facebook ads account. You’ll be able to see what data it collects and how you could use it. From a normal advertisers perspective it can’t read minds. But it probably does know your income, your likely disposable cash, your location, age, sex, interests, connections, search history. You put all this together to make a user profile you can target quite specific people.

    Theres also a bit of confirmation bias too. How often do we have original thoughts. How much of your life do you live in an echo chamber. How often do you go outside?

  10. I think it might be quite the opposite. I believe what’s actually happening is that for days or weeks the phone will slowly drop subliminal hints about a product or service that it knows it will be advertising so that once it happens you think that it was something that you were already considering or thinking about but in fact it has been slowly drip fed to you as you scroll so that when the moment happens and the advertisement hits you pay more attention to it and therefore are more likely to remember it later as it was a memorable moment and not just something random advertised to you.

  11. Conputing capability has reached a point where the active part pf your brain can be simulated
    So all i need to do is feed a digital representation of that with the info you get relayed then modify the knfo and voila i controll the input to a point where i can reasonably predict what it does in ur brain
    U literally donmt need to read the brain mentalists do exactly this

  12. I don’t think your brain waves can be detected further away than near direct contact. That would be why the skull caps with all the leads are necessary.

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