I don’t hate the idea for the very best of the best.
Make it application-based up to 50,000 or so. To qualify you must have never committed a crime other than entering the country illegally, never received public assistance, hold a steady job, pay taxes, work in an in-demand field in an area below the national median of unemployment.
Morkyfrom0rky on
no
Bitter-Assignment464 on
Good job Mike just lost the election.
etherealsmog on
This is one of the areas where I get really tired of my fellow conservatives.
There are approximately 14 million illegal aliens present in the U.S. today, although thankfully under Trump the net growth in that population has basically plateaued after several years of rapid growth under Biden.
But based on current deportation rates, even if we could *quadruple* the number of people we deport every year, it would take nearly *11 years* to remove every one of those people. And they come from every inhabited continent on earth as well as nearly every country on earth, so it’s not like even the logistics of returning people to their home countries is an easy feat.
And then we have to account for the fact that many of those people have families with a variety of mixed immigration status. You may have a father who’s a legal permanent resident, whose wife crossed over illegally to join him in the country of her own volition, and brought their toddler child illegally who has committed no actual crime despite being illegally present, and now they have an infant child who is American-born and therefore a citizen.
How does a pro-family American culture justify deporting the mother and the toddler?
There are far, far, far too many people present in the country to realistically deport, and even if we attempt to indiscriminately remove all of them, we would create a trail of broken families within our nation, and probably also export many thousands of minor children who *have* American citizenship to third world countries to be raised in poverty before they legally return to the US, as is their birthright.
There is, logistically speaking, no possible way to remove all illegal aliens without creating both a nearly “police state” immigration enforcement system and *also* creating conditions for blowback and social decay for American citizens.
We have to triage the situation—prioritizing the deportations of illegal aliens with criminal history, those who are actively dependent on state or charitable social support, or who have very limited personal and familial ties in the country.
But then the only realistic solution to many millions of the people here illegally is to create an amnesty pathway that grants some kind of residency status that we can live with. There is no way out of this mess without confronting the *reality* that we cannot remove everyone, and it would be preferable to address that reality. “Not everything that is faced can be changed. But nothing can be changed till it is faced.”
We must, must, must face the fact that there is no pathway to border and immigration security without some kind of provision for amnesty for a subset of the illegal population
GigaCouchPotato on
How about no. Deport and bring in ones that follow the process.
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Yeah no.
I don’t hate the idea for the very best of the best.
Make it application-based up to 50,000 or so. To qualify you must have never committed a crime other than entering the country illegally, never received public assistance, hold a steady job, pay taxes, work in an in-demand field in an area below the national median of unemployment.
no
Good job Mike just lost the election.
This is one of the areas where I get really tired of my fellow conservatives.
There are approximately 14 million illegal aliens present in the U.S. today, although thankfully under Trump the net growth in that population has basically plateaued after several years of rapid growth under Biden.
But based on current deportation rates, even if we could *quadruple* the number of people we deport every year, it would take nearly *11 years* to remove every one of those people. And they come from every inhabited continent on earth as well as nearly every country on earth, so it’s not like even the logistics of returning people to their home countries is an easy feat.
And then we have to account for the fact that many of those people have families with a variety of mixed immigration status. You may have a father who’s a legal permanent resident, whose wife crossed over illegally to join him in the country of her own volition, and brought their toddler child illegally who has committed no actual crime despite being illegally present, and now they have an infant child who is American-born and therefore a citizen.
How does a pro-family American culture justify deporting the mother and the toddler?
There are far, far, far too many people present in the country to realistically deport, and even if we attempt to indiscriminately remove all of them, we would create a trail of broken families within our nation, and probably also export many thousands of minor children who *have* American citizenship to third world countries to be raised in poverty before they legally return to the US, as is their birthright.
There is, logistically speaking, no possible way to remove all illegal aliens without creating both a nearly “police state” immigration enforcement system and *also* creating conditions for blowback and social decay for American citizens.
We have to triage the situation—prioritizing the deportations of illegal aliens with criminal history, those who are actively dependent on state or charitable social support, or who have very limited personal and familial ties in the country.
But then the only realistic solution to many millions of the people here illegally is to create an amnesty pathway that grants some kind of residency status that we can live with. There is no way out of this mess without confronting the *reality* that we cannot remove everyone, and it would be preferable to address that reality. “Not everything that is faced can be changed. But nothing can be changed till it is faced.”
We must, must, must face the fact that there is no pathway to border and immigration security without some kind of provision for amnesty for a subset of the illegal population
How about no. Deport and bring in ones that follow the process.