This proposal seem pretty widely supported and could be actually enforced.
I hope that a ceasefire with Lebanon and Gaza is reached and the wars will soon end
CentJr on
If the west wasn’t made up of lazy-bums who preferred to kick the can down the road rather than fix the root of the problem then all of this could’ve been avoided.
littlechefdoughnuts on
Good.
I’ve personally cut Israel a lot of slack over the last year, but enough is enough man. Bombing the shit out of Lebanon isn’t going to solve **anything**.
I think patience has basically been expended with the Netanyahu regime. End this.
DEEP_STATE_NATE on
I mean we have about a years worth of evidence at this point that escalate to deescalate (god I fucking hate that term) isn’t working so it’s worth a shot and hope breaking the tit for tat cycle lets it fizzle out.
Doubly so if the talk I’ve heard that Israel’s trump card for an invasion was the pagers that they had to blow early due to fears of compromise is true.
FelicianoCalamity on
The actual statement released by the the US and France doesn’t even mention Hezbollah. It bizarrely calls for a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon. https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1839159256588730760/photo/1 Not sure what the thought process there is but how is that supposed to be helpful?
Fundamentally, this is going to hit the same rock as the Israel-Palestinian negotiations: it being considered impolite in the West to acknowledge that Hezbollah and Hamas have no interests other than destroying Israel. They have no actual security interests because they don’t care about the lives of Gazans or Lebanese, don’t care about trade policy or climate policy or whatever, they exist only as offensive operations to hurt Israel so any negotiations are just about buying time and room to attack Israel again.
MayorofTromaville on
It was one thing when foreign policy wonks were saying that 10/7 would become the Israeli version of 9/11. It’s something else entirely when Bibi has decided to not only embrace that reference but double-down.
… I dunno, I just don’t love how I now have family members who could be in the crosshairs. Lebanon is already effectively a failed state, so being an inch away from invading it just makes me uncomfortable.
jtalin on
Ah yes, a *ceasefire*. The only word left in a western nation’s foreign policy playbook.
PixelArtDragon on
Maybe they should set up a special UN peacekeeping force that can enforce this ceasefire. Worked last time, right?
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This proposal seem pretty widely supported and could be actually enforced.
I hope that a ceasefire with Lebanon and Gaza is reached and the wars will soon end
If the west wasn’t made up of lazy-bums who preferred to kick the can down the road rather than fix the root of the problem then all of this could’ve been avoided.
Good.
I’ve personally cut Israel a lot of slack over the last year, but enough is enough man. Bombing the shit out of Lebanon isn’t going to solve **anything**.
I think patience has basically been expended with the Netanyahu regime. End this.
I mean we have about a years worth of evidence at this point that escalate to deescalate (god I fucking hate that term) isn’t working so it’s worth a shot and hope breaking the tit for tat cycle lets it fizzle out.
Doubly so if the talk I’ve heard that Israel’s trump card for an invasion was the pagers that they had to blow early due to fears of compromise is true.
The actual statement released by the the US and France doesn’t even mention Hezbollah. It bizarrely calls for a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon. https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1839159256588730760/photo/1 Not sure what the thought process there is but how is that supposed to be helpful?
Fundamentally, this is going to hit the same rock as the Israel-Palestinian negotiations: it being considered impolite in the West to acknowledge that Hezbollah and Hamas have no interests other than destroying Israel. They have no actual security interests because they don’t care about the lives of Gazans or Lebanese, don’t care about trade policy or climate policy or whatever, they exist only as offensive operations to hurt Israel so any negotiations are just about buying time and room to attack Israel again.
It was one thing when foreign policy wonks were saying that 10/7 would become the Israeli version of 9/11. It’s something else entirely when Bibi has decided to not only embrace that reference but double-down.
… I dunno, I just don’t love how I now have family members who could be in the crosshairs. Lebanon is already effectively a failed state, so being an inch away from invading it just makes me uncomfortable.
Ah yes, a *ceasefire*. The only word left in a western nation’s foreign policy playbook.
Maybe they should set up a special UN peacekeeping force that can enforce this ceasefire. Worked last time, right?