Absolutely not the same. Most countries have free education and elsewhere in the world, people would laugh at the concept of “student debt” in the first place. Countries that invest in education collectively get that bag. Them Racks. Those Rolls đź’°
AK_Skier49 on
There’s an inverse correlation between intelligence and use of the word “libtard.”
Pandalishus on
Not exactly. One aims to get everyone to vote. The other just aims at college-educated. One’s at least fair. The other is classist.
EDIT: Interesting to see the downvotes. I guess accurate assessments of government interference in elections are unwelcome.
RealNinjafoxtrot on
If there is anything that team red and team blue hate more than each other is people who tell them they’re the same because you’re essentially accusing team blue of being like team red which they hate and vice versa and I’m all for it.
sumwatovnidiot on
There’s always two boots to lick
Street-Entertainer-2 on
Where is my Doge Check???
Ghost-Actual-88 on
I actually mildly agree with the point of the meme being that both sides promise things they are unlikely to deliver on… but I don’t agree that those things are the same.
It will always be bullshit that an 18 year old can shackle themselves to a debt for life but someone that racks up incredible amounts of debt just as irresponsibly in other fashions can just declare bankruptcy and then rebuild their credit after a few years. Level that playing field.
StrikingBroccoli8397 on
Google AI says the difference is about $800 billion.
pmizner on
This picture probably goes hard if you have a room temperature IQ.
jdhutch80 on
There is a difference. One is pandering to people whose lives would be materially improved by an extra $5,000, and the other is catering to largely middle class to upper middle class professionals, who took on student debt for degrees in useless subjects and can’t pay them off.
likemyke91 on
The difference is one side honestly believes that their side can make the country a better place and consistently argue for it. The other picture is a corrupt president who is actively attempting to pay for votes for people who have 0 principles and have given up on their beliefs.
Roscorific on
Its not the same thing. One is an actual policy to provide relief to american citizens in debt while the other is a bribe to keep Republicans in power to continue to do nothing in congress. At least with student loan forgiveness 5.3 million Americans got to enjoy a reprieve, while President Trump has yet to fulfill any sort of Tax Return he promised from Doge and tariff revenue.
Student loan forgiveness also provides a greater economic outlook by creating an educated populace that can be more productive and innovative.
vaiplantarbatata on
“They use similar tactics” is more accurate. They are not the same.
bownt1 on
it is fun to watch them fight
LongDongSilver1883 on
The difference is everyone gets 5k vs some people get 10k off who decided to go to uni.
Which is more fair?
dicorci on
nah; one of those only benefits the group they care about: themselves
LtPitty on
And no one got either
Historical-Doubt2121 on
That’s kind of why I hate the main focus of attack for this policy is it being a “bribe”. You’re going to be dragged into a swamp of semantics in which you have to explain why one politician offering grants, tax cuts, or even a monthly sum of 1k to each American if they win (looking at you Yang), is not a bribe at all, but this is.
Don’t wander into the semantics swamp, just say: this would fuck up the economy, it is so clearly a desperate move because he can’t win otherwise, he won’t do it anyway, even if he did and it didn’t completely crash everything, it would devalue the dollar and/or require tons of taxes to actually finance, so after administrative costs it will cost the average American more than they receive.
Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO on
This post is dumb. All it takes to see which is worse is simple multiplication.
That will tell you which adds more to the debt.
Or better yet… look who is raising the debt the most…. Orange man gonna make my country bankrupt soon
TrackPad96 on
I think both are dumb but to say they are the same is ridiculous. One is in essence a bribe the other is a policy position that will financially benefit some people. It’s like saying; promising Americans $5000 if your side wins is the same as promising Americans tax cuts if your side wins is the same. While both ends up with more money in your pocket nobody would say those are comparable things.
obtainstocks on
Student loan/debt forgiveness is just that: forgiveness. People don’t get a check to cash for their loan balance lol
goldenmushrooms on
Imagine going to college and still being broke… the fuck is wrong with you.
SanDiegoTexas on
I’ll take “Bullshit Lies” for $300, Alex!
Great_Fun_8417 on
Man, I’ve never seen a comment section specifically not understanding what the image actually means.
They’re both coercion. The effects, the authenticity, and which ones are better doesn’t matter, the entire point is that both are a reward for their side winning in order to bring people, manipulating and abusing the current financial situation to their advantage.
thekeldog on
Basically the same, however the 10K to student loans is a selective reward to a group that disproportionately supports a certain party; also a group that theoretically needs that support **less** being that higher education is supposed to yield more earnings over one’s lifetime. The option on the left would be applied equally among all citizens.
Ideal option: Neither. If forced to choose between the two, option 1 (on the left) is inarguably more fair than option 2.
Lazerius on
$5,000 going back to people who paid taxes to begin with =\= as MY tax money going to people who CHOOSE to have student loans.
Ok-Method-3532 on
Apples and oranges but you’re MAGA so I don’t expect you to understand
acemedic on
The difference is one was just a promise to earn votes with no real plan to deliver.
The other was a plan developed and attempted before being blocked by the other political party.
WranglerAlways on
Registered Independent voter here. They are exactly the same pic.
Poor_Kid_Magic on
I mean they are not the same. The republicans could just do this now, they are in power. The dems were unable to do this at the time since they were not in power. Making it much more of a campaign promise than a bribe IMO
besundale99 on
They’re not the same. They give money to vastly different demographics.
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Absolutely not the same. Most countries have free education and elsewhere in the world, people would laugh at the concept of “student debt” in the first place. Countries that invest in education collectively get that bag. Them Racks. Those Rolls đź’°
There’s an inverse correlation between intelligence and use of the word “libtard.”
Not exactly. One aims to get everyone to vote. The other just aims at college-educated. One’s at least fair. The other is classist.
EDIT: Interesting to see the downvotes. I guess accurate assessments of government interference in elections are unwelcome.
If there is anything that team red and team blue hate more than each other is people who tell them they’re the same because you’re essentially accusing team blue of being like team red which they hate and vice versa and I’m all for it.
There’s always two boots to lick
Where is my Doge Check???
I actually mildly agree with the point of the meme being that both sides promise things they are unlikely to deliver on… but I don’t agree that those things are the same.
It will always be bullshit that an 18 year old can shackle themselves to a debt for life but someone that racks up incredible amounts of debt just as irresponsibly in other fashions can just declare bankruptcy and then rebuild their credit after a few years. Level that playing field.
Google AI says the difference is about $800 billion.
This picture probably goes hard if you have a room temperature IQ.
There is a difference. One is pandering to people whose lives would be materially improved by an extra $5,000, and the other is catering to largely middle class to upper middle class professionals, who took on student debt for degrees in useless subjects and can’t pay them off.
The difference is one side honestly believes that their side can make the country a better place and consistently argue for it. The other picture is a corrupt president who is actively attempting to pay for votes for people who have 0 principles and have given up on their beliefs.
Its not the same thing. One is an actual policy to provide relief to american citizens in debt while the other is a bribe to keep Republicans in power to continue to do nothing in congress. At least with student loan forgiveness 5.3 million Americans got to enjoy a reprieve, while President Trump has yet to fulfill any sort of Tax Return he promised from Doge and tariff revenue.
Student loan forgiveness also provides a greater economic outlook by creating an educated populace that can be more productive and innovative.
“They use similar tactics” is more accurate. They are not the same.
it is fun to watch them fight
The difference is everyone gets 5k vs some people get 10k off who decided to go to uni.
Which is more fair?
nah; one of those only benefits the group they care about: themselves
And no one got either
That’s kind of why I hate the main focus of attack for this policy is it being a “bribe”. You’re going to be dragged into a swamp of semantics in which you have to explain why one politician offering grants, tax cuts, or even a monthly sum of 1k to each American if they win (looking at you Yang), is not a bribe at all, but this is.
Don’t wander into the semantics swamp, just say: this would fuck up the economy, it is so clearly a desperate move because he can’t win otherwise, he won’t do it anyway, even if he did and it didn’t completely crash everything, it would devalue the dollar and/or require tons of taxes to actually finance, so after administrative costs it will cost the average American more than they receive.
This post is dumb. All it takes to see which is worse is simple multiplication.
That will tell you which adds more to the debt.
Or better yet… look who is raising the debt the most…. Orange man gonna make my country bankrupt soon
I think both are dumb but to say they are the same is ridiculous. One is in essence a bribe the other is a policy position that will financially benefit some people. It’s like saying; promising Americans $5000 if your side wins is the same as promising Americans tax cuts if your side wins is the same. While both ends up with more money in your pocket nobody would say those are comparable things.
Student loan/debt forgiveness is just that: forgiveness. People don’t get a check to cash for their loan balance lol
Imagine going to college and still being broke… the fuck is wrong with you.
I’ll take “Bullshit Lies” for $300, Alex!
Man, I’ve never seen a comment section specifically not understanding what the image actually means.
They’re both coercion. The effects, the authenticity, and which ones are better doesn’t matter, the entire point is that both are a reward for their side winning in order to bring people, manipulating and abusing the current financial situation to their advantage.
Basically the same, however the 10K to student loans is a selective reward to a group that disproportionately supports a certain party; also a group that theoretically needs that support **less** being that higher education is supposed to yield more earnings over one’s lifetime. The option on the left would be applied equally among all citizens.
Ideal option: Neither. If forced to choose between the two, option 1 (on the left) is inarguably more fair than option 2.
$5,000 going back to people who paid taxes to begin with =\= as MY tax money going to people who CHOOSE to have student loans.
Apples and oranges but you’re MAGA so I don’t expect you to understand
The difference is one was just a promise to earn votes with no real plan to deliver.
The other was a plan developed and attempted before being blocked by the other political party.
Registered Independent voter here. They are exactly the same pic.
I mean they are not the same. The republicans could just do this now, they are in power. The dems were unable to do this at the time since they were not in power. Making it much more of a campaign promise than a bribe IMO
They’re not the same. They give money to vastly different demographics.