Not sure how issuing the most anti-American executive order that is going to get slapped down by SCOTUS for being blatantly unconstitutional is supposed to lower egg prices.
College_Prestige on
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if illegal immigrants are not subject to the jurisdiction, doesn’t that mean this order put them outside the legal system entirely?
Gameknight667 on
Relax libs, he’s just joking, he won’t actually do it.
karim12100 on
This is the worst possible version of this EO. It reads like the children of anyone here on legal nonimmigrant status won’t get citizenship if they’re born here.
Old_Dragonfruit7961 on
“The Fourteenth Amendment has always excluded from birthright citizenship persons who were born in the United States but not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.””
Bro is trying to make a clause meant to exempt ambassadors to people have historically been granted jurisdiction. This is such a bad argument.
BozeRat on
Wow, an anti-American president. big surprise coming from the GOP.
CarmineLTazzi on
The most immediate flaw is that they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US. lol
CarmineLTazzi on
Bad legal reasoning. But law doesn’t matter anymore
Icy-Magician-8085 on
> when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.
So this extends all the way to people who were on work or student visas at the time of having a child and may be permanently staying on a green card now.
This is literally millions of Americans and likely millions of his own voters.
cdstephens on
Fuck Donald Trump, and fuck every American that supports this.
HowIsPajamaMan on
I’m going to become the joker
TheWawa_24 on
What the fuck
teleraptor28 on
What about all the American War Hero’s we read about who came from immigrant parents? Heck one of the Iwo Jima flag Raisers ( arguably an enduring image of the United States) Michael Strank was an immigrant himself, coming Slovakia. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of our armed dead in national cemeteries who were immigrants themselves or their parents. Idk shit just pisses me off
Additional-Use-6823 on
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” That provision rightly repudiated the Supreme Court of the United States’s shameful decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), which misinterpreted the Constitution as permanently excluding people of African descent from eligibility for United States citizenship solely based on their race.
But the Fourteenth Amendment has never been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within the United States
Just read the text dude it says born in the first sentence.
IIHURRlCANEII on
time to truly see if SCOTUS is under Trump’s thumb
ForeverAclone95 on
Evil
Nokickfromchampagne on
Damn this man! Fucker is the the *Leviathan* made manifest, only from the absolute worst aspects of this country. Damn him!
Comfortable_Monk_899 on
Wait how far back does this go lmao? Am i now stateless??
throwaway6560192 on
> (b) Subsection (a) of this section shall apply only to persons who are born within the United States after 30 days from the date of this order.
So they’re at least not making this retroactive?
bcd3169 on
Would they get to revoke the citizenship of people who was born before this eo?
If so, things will get really ugly for tens of millions
Humbleronaldo on
Hey does this mean that it applies retroactively to people born here to alien parents? My homie’s mom had him 26 years ago when she was just visiting this country and as such he got citizenship, he’s been living here for a while now. He’s currently outside of the US, will he even be allowed back in?
magneticanisotropy on
Seriously, fuck this peice of shit.
No-Analyst-9033 on
> *Swears on the constitution*
> “Well, I only sweared on *certain* parts of it, but not others. That count?”
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Not sure how issuing the most anti-American executive order that is going to get slapped down by SCOTUS for being blatantly unconstitutional is supposed to lower egg prices.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if illegal immigrants are not subject to the jurisdiction, doesn’t that mean this order put them outside the legal system entirely?
Relax libs, he’s just joking, he won’t actually do it.
This is the worst possible version of this EO. It reads like the children of anyone here on legal nonimmigrant status won’t get citizenship if they’re born here.
“The Fourteenth Amendment has always excluded from birthright citizenship persons who were born in the United States but not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.””
Bro is trying to make a clause meant to exempt ambassadors to people have historically been granted jurisdiction. This is such a bad argument.
Wow, an anti-American president. big surprise coming from the GOP.
The most immediate flaw is that they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US. lol
Bad legal reasoning. But law doesn’t matter anymore
> when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.
So this extends all the way to people who were on work or student visas at the time of having a child and may be permanently staying on a green card now.
This is literally millions of Americans and likely millions of his own voters.
Fuck Donald Trump, and fuck every American that supports this.
I’m going to become the joker
What the fuck
What about all the American War Hero’s we read about who came from immigrant parents? Heck one of the Iwo Jima flag Raisers ( arguably an enduring image of the United States) Michael Strank was an immigrant himself, coming Slovakia. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of our armed dead in national cemeteries who were immigrants themselves or their parents. Idk shit just pisses me off
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” That provision rightly repudiated the Supreme Court of the United States’s shameful decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), which misinterpreted the Constitution as permanently excluding people of African descent from eligibility for United States citizenship solely based on their race.
But the Fourteenth Amendment has never been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within the United States
Just read the text dude it says born in the first sentence.
time to truly see if SCOTUS is under Trump’s thumb
Evil
Damn this man! Fucker is the the *Leviathan* made manifest, only from the absolute worst aspects of this country. Damn him!
Wait how far back does this go lmao? Am i now stateless??
> (b) Subsection (a) of this section shall apply only to persons who are born within the United States after 30 days from the date of this order.
So they’re at least not making this retroactive?
Would they get to revoke the citizenship of people who was born before this eo?
If so, things will get really ugly for tens of millions
Hey does this mean that it applies retroactively to people born here to alien parents? My homie’s mom had him 26 years ago when she was just visiting this country and as such he got citizenship, he’s been living here for a while now. He’s currently outside of the US, will he even be allowed back in?
Seriously, fuck this peice of shit.
> *Swears on the constitution*
> “Well, I only sweared on *certain* parts of it, but not others. That count?”