I saw why Trump's fans got upset about free speech. They were being censored online, and it was being denied, straight to their faces.
I even sympathized with Jan 6 participants, and when people said "they're overturning democracy", I would say, "if you believed what they believe, you'd think they're saving democracy".
I saw that the 2020 election was stolen, and I saw the blatant lies about it.
But never once, could I support trump, or blindly ignore the POS that he is. Because I have a consistent set or morals and ethics. I have ideological consistency.
So many here do not. They simply have tribalist loyalties, with such self righteous indignation, that they cut off their own noses to spite their faces.
I used to say, trump fucking sucks, but he's not racists like they say, his supporters mostly aren't, and he's not overturning the constitution, or really overstepping his powers, so, not fascist.
One of the primary marks of fascism is that your deepest principals are coopted and corrupted.
Those constitutionalists here, if there are any left, are true patriots.
Trump is actively overturning the greatest document in America's formation, and everyone here who cared so much about free speech or 2nd amendment rights, are now in support of indefinite detainment without charges.
With criminalizing free speech against the theocratic terrorist ethnostate that is IS RA EL.
With stacking the supreme Court and "decentralizing" (not really though) govt. A "decentralized govt" in a stacked nation is an unofficial authoritocracy based on unearned loyalism.
With trying to integrate religion and publicly provided services, while people set in place write restrictions so that only Trump's bibles can be used.
What happens when Trump's bibles are the govts officially mandated new king James?
Well, a tyrant would use that opportunity to rewrite it.
You might think you're some sort of patriot. You are merely a loyalist with a sense of self righteous indignation, which was cultivated in you, during a decade long psyop.
You are not a conspiracy theorist.
You are not a patriot.
You are a fool.
Covid was used to foment this. I was told I was scum for not getting a jab. Ousted by my family. The expected effect has occurred: a pendulum swing where those ousted feel perfectly fine with doing more to those and any affiliated with those that supported actions against them.
To simplify: "they lied and said we should die, cause covid was a scam, so I hope they die now that we're back in power".
I used to laugh at the idea that CNN would call trump a fascist, because they were saying it without evidence, about fairly mild policies. This too was meant to make you ignore when it actually turned into fascism.
God help you all;sincerely.
Didn't think I'd need to give the history of gitmo, but, it's a known torture facility, where people are held without representation, potentially indefinitely, and subjected to cruel and unusual punishments.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Guantanamo-Bay-detention-camp
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Yeah, I mean, what did we expect? They are the most protected group on the planet and every president kisses the wall. Not exactly profound or unexpected.
I will never support antisemitism legislation. It’s inherently anti free speech. Criticizing zionists is not antisemitism. Criticism of horrible actions isn’t antisemitism. I am for Trump but not this. Unlike the left on here that toes the party line no matter what, I disagree with this by the Trump Admin.
Because this sub is not what it used to be 10 years ago. Many accounts patrol this sub to downvote anything can show some light on who is pulling the strings. Accounts making fun of the OP when posted key info.
The internet including twitter is a massive conglomerate of paid influencers and bots. Real people posting good info is very difficult to find these days.
Because this is not a conspiracy sub anymore. It is mainly just people posting news articles, partisan politics, or just made up BS.
Bootlickers. They need for their daddy to save them.
I don’t disagree at all. And being Center-Left is a great position to be, because both sides are shit shows.
Just commenting to show appreciation for the interesting easter egg you’ve left for the real conspiracy heads: IS RA EL
Neither Trump, nor anyone else can “overturn constitutional law”.
Go read Article 6. The constitution and Bill of Rights are the Supreme Law of the Land, and cannot be “overturned” by any executive order or legislation whatsoever. That’s not how it works. You need to pass an Amendment. There have been over 11,000 proposed amendments to the the Constitution, only 27 have passed, it’s not an easy thing to accomplish.
This should have been a diary entry.
This is coming from a person who is conservative leaning, by proxy of labels, but hates trump, has voted blue recently and is not what you described in your post. I’m an actual independent.
What you’re saying is not even remotely based in reality. Your morals are compromised every *single* time you support any establishment politician, including Bernie, or any parallels to him in the future.
Ten years! yet account is less than a year old.
If you’ve been on this sub that long then you’d recognise that this sub, infact all of reddit, is infested with shills.
More over, those that are genuinely “I don’t trust politicians” get mass downvoted so their comments get hidden.
Because people don’t understand the first amendment and it’s meaning has been misconstrued to mean “Everybody needs to listen to me and every stupid thing I say because I’m a special American snowflake.”
Can anyone link me to what’s being referred to? If they criminalized anti Is rael commentary that’s ridiculous and every other country that does this is disgusting. No group should be safe from being criticized, especially is rael.
Not just tribalist loyalists, but self-serving hypocrites.
Those who care about constitutional rights only when it affects them, are not constitutionalists, patriots, or loyal to America.
Just as those who would shun the words of Christ – *have mercy in the name of our Lord God* because Trump was offended, are not servants of God. (God bless Bishop Budde for having the courage to remind us all of what is required to serve God).
Not just fools, but unwitting fools who have abandoned their own free-thinking to call others the sheep.
OP hit the nail on the head when speaking of personal morality, ethics and consistency. For me, I do not bend my morality for *anyone.* My values have served me well when I was an atheist, a servant of God, socially liberal, personally conservative. This puts me all over the board, agreeing with this side on this and that side on that but never on any side except that which serves my own morality.
If what you are standing for is constantly under attack, then you should be deeply examining whether it is aligned with your morality. If it is, go all in. If it is not, see it for its worthlessness and cut off the part which offends.
>everyone here who cared so much about free speech or 2nd amendment rights, are now in support of indefinite detainment without charges.
NOW in support? Bro, that “indefinite detainment without charges” ship sailed over 20 years ago with W’s Patriot Act. And I’d wager most here think it was a bullshit bill that eviscerated our civil liberties. Hell, the Patriot Act is why J6ers sat in jail for years under the corrupt Biden regime.
Further, I’d wager most here are also not in favor of *any* legislation that restricts freedom of speech. There are already hate speech laws; calling out any group specifically is completely unnecessary as far as I’m concerned.
>To simplify: “they lied and said we should die, cause covid was a scam, so I hope they die now that we’re back in power”.
To be clear, I don’t wish them death, I just couldn’t care less when it happens.
Imagine having enough time to write this rant but not enough time to read the executive order
So a 1 year old account, who has been on this sub 10 years, is so upset that people want to monitor (not stop ) protestors who are protesting in support of a terrorist organization, that they came to reddit to say how much they loved trump until he became a fascist, and used a whole heap of bullshit to support their argument?
THAT is why this sub is going to shit.
“(Not really though)” doesn’t prove BY ANY METRIC, centralization of the government. It doesn’t even explain why you think it’s happening.
Spelling out a country with spaces in it doesn’t prove that you cant still talk shit about them. And it sure as hell doesn’t mean we shouldn’t monitor FUCKING HAMAS SUPPORTERS.
The only thing I hear in this post is “Look propaganda daddy! Look how moist my bussy is for your big globalist cock! I said bad no nos about trump. Am I a good little Marxist whore?”
Did ChatGPT write this, too?
I stopped reading the second you cried about stacking the Supreme Court. You are doing leftist talking points and trying to pretend you are a nuanced individual.
Sir, this is a Preddit
The sheeple are fine with being herded. They don’t want to think for themselves. They’re all now fine with the great divide and are falling in line. Remember folks we’re all just various shades of wheat waiting to be harvested we shouldn’t be fighting one another over nonsense the media hypes
Executive orders can’t overturn constitutional law. If an executive order is unconstitutional it just gets blocked by the courts and anyone negatively impacted by it can sue the federal the government
I’m confused.. trump is trying to stop online censorship therefore he’s attacking the constitution?
Someone fill me in please, because I’m lost.
The old conspiracy theorists are now establishment shills and the fact that they don’t see it is amazing to me
That little place in the MidEast truly does own both parties
What was the name of your previous account that was banned?
I too have noticed that hypocrisy has taken root all over the place. Nobody’s talk matches up with their walk. Free speech absolutionists are supporting censorship and detaining people without cause or charges. Legislators are tripping over themselves to see who can suck Trump’s dick the hardest by writing legislation that they don’t actually intend to have enacted, but due to everyone else doing the same thing could very possibly become law. The “opposition” is just sitting back with their popcorn, while the majority of us plebs fall for distractions and insidious irrelevant culture war bullshit, and those in power are pouring gasoline on the fire to watch the world burn.
Some days I feel like I’m living in the prelude to a dystopian adventure story
Both sides display tribalism.
Because identity politics trumps logic and reason
This sub and right wingers in general used to be terrified of the NWO and the eradication of US borders, freedom, and erasure of the US dollar being led by an elite cabal of the ultra wealthy.
Now they’re all bought in fully to all of those concepts including boot licking the richest man in the world who specifically organized an elite cabal of billionaires to help him do all of those things.
The entire point of the ultra-divisive propaganda that has been ingrained into us is to make people ignore the class divide which is larger than it’s ever been in human history, and we are on the brink of awakening AGI and immortality will be a very real possibility, for the people in the club. You hate Nancy Pelosi now wait till her replacement is immortal.
The left HATES Maga more than Hitler and the right and most people on this sub are more worried about owning the libs and praising their new savior and daddy than objective truth. All this constant propaganda and social engineering worked perfectly to make us turn on each other, if Covid wasn’t the absolute wakeup call that this shit is doomed I don’t know what else would wake someone up. Keep blaming your neighbor and praising your political “elites” and saviors. As we march steadfast into the dystopian nightmare, they are preparing for us all I bet you lemmings stop worrying about left vs right so much, once you have been turned into a human battery.
Say it with me everyone Billionaires are not our friends; they do not have our interests in mind, never have, and never will, wake the fuck up.
i always say over the past 10 yrs rightwing truthers have become programmed and manipulated the same extent as their woke counterparts. its about different colored jerseys at this point, team A wins superbowl or team B does. Nothing seems like its about fking lifedeciding politics anymore