My immediate reaction was he is representing a view held by most voters in the election but that it’s a view that other Democrats would be excoriated for saying by the very people who love Bernie Sanders.
Pissflaps69 on
That if democrats hope to get elected they need to meet the American voters where they are.
Xenophobiatown
Canopus10 on
It’s realpolitik. Dems have to embrace at least some illegal immigration restriction to appeal to voters.
TheGothGeorgist on
Realization that the Dems weak messaging on immigration was a critical misplay
UUtch on
I think it’s likely the politically advantageous position, but also what he genuinely personally believes.
financeguy1729 on
I can’t complain
I405CA on
It misrepresents what he said.
*He (Trump) wants to deport 20 million people who are in this country who are undocumented. Well, you do that, you destroy the entire country. Because I got news for you, Trump’s billionaire friends are not going to pick the crops in California that feed us. They’re not going to work in meatpacking houses. That’s what undocumented people are doing.*
alienatedframe2 on
Any Democrat would be an idiot to back Bidens immigration policy. It was massively unpopular, and was almost certainly bad policy. Immigration isn’t bad, letting anyone hop over with shoddy asylum claims is.
tjaku on
Don’t agree with it but it’s probably good politics. What I find baffling is the guy who wrote One Billion Americans posting on Twitter that this is a good move
UncleDrummers on
Talk about a knife to the back. Biden started going downhill in favorability ratings because he listened to Bernie.
IgnoreThisName72 on
I think Bernie is right, but he was also a fucking Senator and could have said something, literally anything, at the time.
Pale_Temperature8118 on
I’m just failing to see the purpose. Yeah, immigration messaging should be better for the democrats. However, no one whose number one issue was immigration is ever going to vote democrat. If it’s their number one issue, they’re always going to trust republicans on it more. Obama was deporting an insane amount of illegal immigrants and Trump won in 2016 on a too many illegal platform as well.
RRCSKS on
It’s proof that any attempt to accommodate the far left is a waste of time. Biden gave the Bernie wing of the party more concessions than any other president in history and got nothing in return.
ProfessionalCreme119 on
Never forget that there is such a thing as the Bernie/Trump voter and the AOC/Trump voter. Many people who voted for AOC and Bernie did not vote for Harris. They voted for Trump at the top of the ticket.
Here’s Cortez talking about her own voters doing it.
Why do you think they have Bernie and AOC running rallies hand in hand…..
Maybe it has something to do with some of Trump’s policies being weirdly historically socialist in nature. But what do I know? Talking like that gets you banned for 14 days around here. So I’m probably wrong.
SpaceSheperd on
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My immediate reaction was he is representing a view held by most voters in the election but that it’s a view that other Democrats would be excoriated for saying by the very people who love Bernie Sanders.
That if democrats hope to get elected they need to meet the American voters where they are.
Xenophobiatown
It’s realpolitik. Dems have to embrace at least some illegal immigration restriction to appeal to voters.
Realization that the Dems weak messaging on immigration was a critical misplay
I think it’s likely the politically advantageous position, but also what he genuinely personally believes.
I can’t complain
It misrepresents what he said.
*He (Trump) wants to deport 20 million people who are in this country who are undocumented. Well, you do that, you destroy the entire country. Because I got news for you, Trump’s billionaire friends are not going to pick the crops in California that feed us. They’re not going to work in meatpacking houses. That’s what undocumented people are doing.*
Any Democrat would be an idiot to back Bidens immigration policy. It was massively unpopular, and was almost certainly bad policy. Immigration isn’t bad, letting anyone hop over with shoddy asylum claims is.
Don’t agree with it but it’s probably good politics. What I find baffling is the guy who wrote One Billion Americans posting on Twitter that this is a good move
Talk about a knife to the back. Biden started going downhill in favorability ratings because he listened to Bernie.
I think Bernie is right, but he was also a fucking Senator and could have said something, literally anything, at the time.
I’m just failing to see the purpose. Yeah, immigration messaging should be better for the democrats. However, no one whose number one issue was immigration is ever going to vote democrat. If it’s their number one issue, they’re always going to trust republicans on it more. Obama was deporting an insane amount of illegal immigrants and Trump won in 2016 on a too many illegal platform as well.
It’s proof that any attempt to accommodate the far left is a waste of time. Biden gave the Bernie wing of the party more concessions than any other president in history and got nothing in return.
Never forget that there is such a thing as the Bernie/Trump voter and the AOC/Trump voter. Many people who voted for AOC and Bernie did not vote for Harris. They voted for Trump at the top of the ticket.
Here’s Cortez talking about her own voters doing it.
https://youtu.be/WoP9BJiItSI?si=0X3RVLdsl4-Xnsre
Why do you think they have Bernie and AOC running rallies hand in hand…..
Maybe it has something to do with some of Trump’s policies being weirdly historically socialist in nature. But what do I know? Talking like that gets you banned for 14 days around here. So I’m probably wrong.
Notorious nativist espouses nativist views. More at 11:00