Backlash to Trump has been more severe in his second term – Gallup’s latest data shows Republican party identification down 6 points in Trump’s second term — three times the decline in 2017
Backlash to Trump has been more severe in his second term – Gallup’s latest data shows Republican party identification down 6 points in Trump’s second term — three times the decline in 2017
At the end of the day, elections aren’t about what candidate people like more, but which candidate they hate less. Most peoples view of the political class is so toxic they don’t think they’re much different to the mob bosses like Trump.
swimmingupclose on
Lots of interesting stats in there but the one in the byline really stands out. Deflections from Trump are at historic levels, far greater than Biden, Obama during the tea party moment and even from Bush during Iraq. The real question is what will the Dems do to capitalize on this and whether they’ll be able to do so effectively, starting this year.
Declan_McManus on
I recall a lot of analysis from 2018 and 2022 that during midterms, the environment basically never improves for the incumbent party. It can either hold steady or get worse, but not get better.
That idea, plus the numbers in this article, plus the already-decent Senate polling for democrats this year, plus _gestures around at everything_, at least gives me hope that we’re heading toward a generational midterm blowout
HectorTheGod on
I think that this incumbent toxicity is here to stay.
I simply don’t see how it’s possible, in this two party environment, where every single presidential election is a choice between what the majority of the population sees as a choice between two evils, and the vast majority of the populace are so distanced from politics that presidential elections are more of a cultural event than an actual policy event, that this incumbency disadvantage doesn’t start getting more pronounced.
People fucking hate politicians. Especially Americans. The house and the Senate do this no favors, as their inability to get literally anything done other than the most bland bipartisan legislation means that nothing effective can be done in the house or the Senate.
The major problems that America has: debt, poverty, homelessness, and this battle between isolationism and internationalism, simply cannot get fixed by anyone, because of the two party system. So every single election, a party will come into power, the people will realize that they can’t fix the problem that they elected this person to go into office to fix, and then they’ll get voted out.
KruglorTalks on
“Its still back to first term numbers!” Its something I always hear when I show data like this. Nevermind that Trump’s bad numbers were from catastrophic events and now Trump’s bad numbers are from him being dumb as shit.
thabonch on
Too fucking late now.
ThreeSidesofNazareth on
SS guards exchanging their uniforms for civilian clothes as Allied troops approach the camps
MuscularPhysicist on

jason_abacabb on
Hard to get excited about all the posts about this when the bigger fall just ends at the same point he was at last time.
SlaaneshActual on
With each new outrage more and more Americans decide they’re fucking done with these guys.
They’re flooding the zone, and the vast majority of us fucking hate what we see.
Virginia proved that Americans simply don’t hate trans people the way the right wants them to. Most Americans actually support or simply don’t give a fuck. The actual bigots out there are all gonna vote Republican anyway, and the anti-trans hate tactics turn off some swing voters.
And Americans don’t like being threatened by our own government. When it happens, we tend to get extremely angry.
Meanwhile the economy is worsening because Trump is a fucking moron, so the republicans don’t even have that going for them.
In the past three consecutive presidential elections most Americans voted for someone who wasn’t Donald Trump.
And we’re pissed off that we have to deal with it.
Jetssuckmysoul on
People had positive expectations. Trump one his mandate was blow shit up which he did even if you disliked him that is what you expected him to do. He was reigned in on his worst instincts and the economy is good.
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At the end of the day, elections aren’t about what candidate people like more, but which candidate they hate less. Most peoples view of the political class is so toxic they don’t think they’re much different to the mob bosses like Trump.
Lots of interesting stats in there but the one in the byline really stands out. Deflections from Trump are at historic levels, far greater than Biden, Obama during the tea party moment and even from Bush during Iraq. The real question is what will the Dems do to capitalize on this and whether they’ll be able to do so effectively, starting this year.
I recall a lot of analysis from 2018 and 2022 that during midterms, the environment basically never improves for the incumbent party. It can either hold steady or get worse, but not get better.
That idea, plus the numbers in this article, plus the already-decent Senate polling for democrats this year, plus _gestures around at everything_, at least gives me hope that we’re heading toward a generational midterm blowout
I think that this incumbent toxicity is here to stay.
I simply don’t see how it’s possible, in this two party environment, where every single presidential election is a choice between what the majority of the population sees as a choice between two evils, and the vast majority of the populace are so distanced from politics that presidential elections are more of a cultural event than an actual policy event, that this incumbency disadvantage doesn’t start getting more pronounced.
People fucking hate politicians. Especially Americans. The house and the Senate do this no favors, as their inability to get literally anything done other than the most bland bipartisan legislation means that nothing effective can be done in the house or the Senate.
The major problems that America has: debt, poverty, homelessness, and this battle between isolationism and internationalism, simply cannot get fixed by anyone, because of the two party system. So every single election, a party will come into power, the people will realize that they can’t fix the problem that they elected this person to go into office to fix, and then they’ll get voted out.
“Its still back to first term numbers!” Its something I always hear when I show data like this. Nevermind that Trump’s bad numbers were from catastrophic events and now Trump’s bad numbers are from him being dumb as shit.
Too fucking late now.
SS guards exchanging their uniforms for civilian clothes as Allied troops approach the camps

Hard to get excited about all the posts about this when the bigger fall just ends at the same point he was at last time.
With each new outrage more and more Americans decide they’re fucking done with these guys.
They’re flooding the zone, and the vast majority of us fucking hate what we see.
Virginia proved that Americans simply don’t hate trans people the way the right wants them to. Most Americans actually support or simply don’t give a fuck. The actual bigots out there are all gonna vote Republican anyway, and the anti-trans hate tactics turn off some swing voters.
And Americans don’t like being threatened by our own government. When it happens, we tend to get extremely angry.
Meanwhile the economy is worsening because Trump is a fucking moron, so the republicans don’t even have that going for them.
In the past three consecutive presidential elections most Americans voted for someone who wasn’t Donald Trump.
And we’re pissed off that we have to deal with it.
People had positive expectations. Trump one his mandate was blow shit up which he did even if you disliked him that is what you expected him to do. He was reigned in on his worst instincts and the economy is good.