Relevance: the midterms are coming up, and liberals need to make coalition decisions. Ezra Klein and many others see Hasan Piker as a useful counterweight to Joe Rogan, but Noah Smith argues he's a liability. This is relevant to the sub because it has implications for the fight against Trump and the future of the Democratic party beyond.
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Damn, here before the choir. At least I get a front row seat for the preaching!
Noah Smith the race science guy?
There are probably worse things, like democrats.
>Maybe so, but I hope not. Instead of embracing anti-American shock jocks like Hasan Piker, mainstream liberals should simply levy their own criticisms of Israel instead. You don’t have to believe America is evil and communist empires are virtuous in order to say that Israel has become crueler, more totalitarian, and less reliable as an ally.
yeah i agree but nobody’s doing this lol
Yeah but everyone here knows that already inb4 this is removed
We know this. He’s a piece of shit. We don’t need a guy who’s just moderately less bigoted than Piker himself to tell us this.
Hasan recently said that he wouldn’t commit to voting for Newsom in a Vance v. Newsom debate.
George Bush didn’t negotiate with terrorists and neither should the Democratic Party.
It can be a big tent with many opinions but openly encouraging folks to vote 3rd party doesn’t need to be a part of the tent.
Piker is as bad as far right nut jobs. All scum
If you don’t like Hassan, that’s fine
But let’s stop pretending that we can have a liberal Joe Rogan. The nature of guys like Theo Von and Joe Rogan is that they will say controversial things, maybe even make borderline racist or derogatory comments. People have tried to cancel these people but they are generally immune. These guys will also have no issue debating or platforming radicals.
Democrats cannot have a podcast ecosystem and get someone with no skeletons in the closest. The moment they see those skeleton, democrats run scared.
However, audiences are willing tolerate controversy if someone is willing to talk about the issues they care about.
If you have a liberal joe rogan and they push the envelope and call the gaza war a “genocide”, most democrats elites are gonna run away. All it takes is one issue where they push the envelope and dems will be calling for thier heads
Ezra Klein doesn’t see Hasan as a counterweight to Joe Rogan.
His argument is that Dems shouldn’t shun going on podcasts and streams with people they might find distasteful.
Why would Ezra do this
How can he be good for democrats? Wasn’t he telling people to not vote in the last election?
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