Submission Statement: The topic of immigration and whether criminals should be deported is an important issue in the US and relevant to this sub. I’m curious if this sub supports Walz’s, Ellison’s and the Minnesota Pardon Board’s actions here.
Personally I think pardoning a child rapist in an attempt to keep him in the country is an awful hill for Democrats to die on, both morally and politically.
“The Minnesota Board of Pardons granted the reprieve on June 10 to Tou Lue Vang, 42, who came to the United States as a child and was set to be deported to Laos imminently. Mr. Vang had submitted a letter to the board expressing regret for the actions that led to his 2005 conviction, and said a pardon could help him stay in the country with his wife and six children.
Mr. Vang’s victim, who was 10 when the abuse began, also submitted a letter supporting the pardon. Mr. Vang pleaded guilty to first-degree criminal sexual conduct in a plea deal that spared him from serving time in prison.”
Still a terrible hill to die on imo
Windows_10-Chan on
Global poor link?
I found a cbs one which was a little sparce, but it was a pardon pushed for by the victims, sadly it didn’t otherwise seem to have much explanation from pardon board.
It’s also worth noting that this guy came here as a child.
This is as respects the morality of the pardon. Politically doing anything short of throwing pedos in the woodchipper is a political loss.
666haha on
We shouldn’t be deporting people especially someone who has not once in his life set foot in the country he is being deported too. The victim of this crime as well as countless other sent letters asking for a pardon. The justice system should be for rehabilitation. I know this is politically unpopular but deporting someone to a country he has never stepped foot in is illiberal and bad
No_Return9449 on
I read this as a pissed-off Walz giving the finger to DHS.
Terrible optics and an even worse crime over which to do it.
SizeFront7649 on
It’s cool to see the thing we’ll be hit over the head with for the next two years. By the midterms this will be turned into Dems importing illegals and training them to abuse kids.
Aigiokhos on
American liberals are pathologically incapable of taking the right side of any 80/20 issue
Plastic-Mushroom-875 on
This will be used as a bludgeon against all immigrants nationwide and the people and politicians who support them.
Hope it was worth it.
Purrseus_Felinus on
Walz sure does have amazing political instincts.
StopTalkingToEric on
Democrats are the masters of the self-own.
Flat_Sail_7985 on
Despite what I am about to write and such, I do agree this will be horrible optics because Trump/GOP will use this in every ad basically within the state. However,
I do not think we should be deporting people for breaking crimes. I fundamentally reject the notion that a solution to crime is just exiling people from the nation, rather than just putting them in prison.
What does deporting this person actually accomplish that a prison sentence does not accomplish? Why would deporting this person suddenly be justice when a prison sentence would accomplish the same goal of punishment?
I fundamentally reject the notion that the solution to criminal behavior is kicking someone out of this country.
Edit: It is also worth discussing that if the individual served their prison sentence and probation, was forgiven by the family and the victim, why are we still punishing them. They have served their time and paid back the community. Why do people want endless punishment?
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Submission Statement: The topic of immigration and whether criminals should be deported is an important issue in the US and relevant to this sub. I’m curious if this sub supports Walz’s, Ellison’s and the Minnesota Pardon Board’s actions here.
Personally I think pardoning a child rapist in an attempt to keep him in the country is an awful hill for Democrats to die on, both morally and politically.
gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/01/us/politics/minnesota-pardon-sexual-abuser.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ulA.d_K8.lhtgMJozHRFy&smid=url-share
Yikes!
“The Minnesota Board of Pardons granted the reprieve on June 10 to Tou Lue Vang, 42, who came to the United States as a child and was set to be deported to Laos imminently. Mr. Vang had submitted a letter to the board expressing regret for the actions that led to his 2005 conviction, and said a pardon could help him stay in the country with his wife and six children.
Mr. Vang’s victim, who was 10 when the abuse began, also submitted a letter supporting the pardon. Mr. Vang pleaded guilty to first-degree criminal sexual conduct in a plea deal that spared him from serving time in prison.”
Still a terrible hill to die on imo
Global poor link?
I found a cbs one which was a little sparce, but it was a pardon pushed for by the victims, sadly it didn’t otherwise seem to have much explanation from pardon board.
It’s also worth noting that this guy came here as a child.
This is as respects the morality of the pardon. Politically doing anything short of throwing pedos in the woodchipper is a political loss.
We shouldn’t be deporting people especially someone who has not once in his life set foot in the country he is being deported too. The victim of this crime as well as countless other sent letters asking for a pardon. The justice system should be for rehabilitation. I know this is politically unpopular but deporting someone to a country he has never stepped foot in is illiberal and bad
I read this as a pissed-off Walz giving the finger to DHS.
Terrible optics and an even worse crime over which to do it.
It’s cool to see the thing we’ll be hit over the head with for the next two years. By the midterms this will be turned into Dems importing illegals and training them to abuse kids.
American liberals are pathologically incapable of taking the right side of any 80/20 issue
This will be used as a bludgeon against all immigrants nationwide and the people and politicians who support them.
Hope it was worth it.
Walz sure does have amazing political instincts.
Democrats are the masters of the self-own.
Despite what I am about to write and such, I do agree this will be horrible optics because Trump/GOP will use this in every ad basically within the state. However,
I do not think we should be deporting people for breaking crimes. I fundamentally reject the notion that a solution to crime is just exiling people from the nation, rather than just putting them in prison.
What does deporting this person actually accomplish that a prison sentence does not accomplish? Why would deporting this person suddenly be justice when a prison sentence would accomplish the same goal of punishment?
I fundamentally reject the notion that the solution to criminal behavior is kicking someone out of this country.
Edit: It is also worth discussing that if the individual served their prison sentence and probation, was forgiven by the family and the victim, why are we still punishing them. They have served their time and paid back the community. Why do people want endless punishment?