Submission statement:
Why it’s related to liberalism?
Immigration, freedom of movement are a key part of liberalism politics.
My view on this:
Anti immigration is now a cross bench bipartisan policy goal in the developed countries, and it seems that this will remain the tone for the next few decades of this century.
Amutoji on
Carney is no Hanson, and Canadian immigration rates haven’t dropped as low as this headline would imply. I see no reason why returning to the levels immediately preceding our big pandemic spike is considered to be an anti-immigration stance. It lacks nuance.
On top of that, the debate is still squarely centered on temporary immigration. Is losing international students bad? Yeah, but we’ve had colleges hollow themselves out entirely to get their tuitions in Ontario because we had a freeze on how much domestic students can be charged. And temporary workers? There’s a case to be made that they aren’t doing much for the economy, just propping up zombie businesses that are a poor use of capital. Usage of temporary workers shot up hundreds of percentage points in some fields after the pandemic, and it’s not like productivity benefited much.
Permanent immigration remains stable, and nobody is touching it. Some loud fearmongers out there, but they haven’t impacted any government policy.
By the way, Canada is talking to the EU about a new free movement scheme, the right for Europeans to live and work in Canada. Australia could never.
Previous_Platform718 on
Canada’s immigration rate remains high among developed countries. It slowed but it’s in no way low.
2024 Target (last year before Carney) Target 485,000 new permanent residents.
2025 Target: 395,000 new permanent residents
2026 Target: 380,000 new permanent residents.
That is about 1% of the population coming in each year.
fredovan on
lol sad attempt to equate the two. Let’s set aside that Carney’s popularity is fueled by how he handling the relationship with Trump and defending Canadian sovereignty.
CutePattern1098 on
I think the Australian debate forgets that what allowed Trudeau and Carney to lower immigration and even increase departures was high unemployment. Even with everything going on our job market is running hot.
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Submission statement:
Why it’s related to liberalism?
Immigration, freedom of movement are a key part of liberalism politics.
My view on this:
Anti immigration is now a cross bench bipartisan policy goal in the developed countries, and it seems that this will remain the tone for the next few decades of this century.
Carney is no Hanson, and Canadian immigration rates haven’t dropped as low as this headline would imply. I see no reason why returning to the levels immediately preceding our big pandemic spike is considered to be an anti-immigration stance. It lacks nuance.
On top of that, the debate is still squarely centered on temporary immigration. Is losing international students bad? Yeah, but we’ve had colleges hollow themselves out entirely to get their tuitions in Ontario because we had a freeze on how much domestic students can be charged. And temporary workers? There’s a case to be made that they aren’t doing much for the economy, just propping up zombie businesses that are a poor use of capital. Usage of temporary workers shot up hundreds of percentage points in some fields after the pandemic, and it’s not like productivity benefited much.
Permanent immigration remains stable, and nobody is touching it. Some loud fearmongers out there, but they haven’t impacted any government policy.
By the way, Canada is talking to the EU about a new free movement scheme, the right for Europeans to live and work in Canada. Australia could never.
Canada’s immigration rate remains high among developed countries. It slowed but it’s in no way low.
2024 Target (last year before Carney) Target 485,000 new permanent residents.
2025 Target: 395,000 new permanent residents
2026 Target: 380,000 new permanent residents.
That is about 1% of the population coming in each year.
lol sad attempt to equate the two. Let’s set aside that Carney’s popularity is fueled by how he handling the relationship with Trump and defending Canadian sovereignty.
I think the Australian debate forgets that what allowed Trudeau and Carney to lower immigration and even increase departures was high unemployment. Even with everything going on our job market is running hot.