In the mist of my worst “It’s Joever,” I found within me an invincible “We’re Kamaling back.”
Bidens_Erect_Tariffs on
“Yo I heard Trump joined MS-13 while in jail”
West_Process_3489 on
ik our whole deal is “open borders and taco trucks on every corner” but this kinda messaging is needed like hell to win the election
Anonym_fisk on
It’s… Too wordy and technical?
For instance, “Supports increasing the number of” -> “wants more” or “will get more”
Also, without the context of why Trump would have blocked those things, people just aren’t going to believe it. The best dunk on this issue is that he intentionally kept the border weak so he could run on it. “Harris want to fix things, Trump wants to complain”.
Idk I bet they did some focus group testing and this alleviates swing voters’ fear that dems don’t care abt the border or something, but it doesn’t feel very effective.
chepulis on
I like it overall, but the music feels like way too much. It’s fine that it’s doing it, but feels too on the nose to the point of manipulative. But maybe american political ads are just like that.
AtomAndAether on
Are they referencing Republican legislators and ascribing it to Trump?
RayWencube on
This feels like an atrocious ad. It doesn’t sound serious, it’s too wordy, and it whiffs on the biggest hit: Trump blocked the bill *because he wanted to campaign on it.*
YouGuysSuckandBlow on
Yessss bring their stupid fucking self-veto of that bill back into the fore. It was ridiculous and stupid as all fuck and they aren’t shat on nearly enough for it. Make it the biggest mistake they’ve made in years.
cashto on
Iiih. First of all it’s an internet ad, so I don’t know who ever is going to see it.
Secondly, the things Trump “blocked” are very much against what his stated position is, and there’s no citation, so it’s very easy for a Trump supporter to dismiss this ad as a complete fabrication.
Is he playing political games? Of course. But is that what Republican voters want their politicians to be doing, just try to score cheap political points on Democrats, rather than actually trying to solve problems? Also yes.
So no, this is not going to move the needle on who is stronger on the border. Most conservatives will say, if Trump says it’s bad, then there must have been something really bad in it. Obviously if any Democrats were involved in the bill, there must be some poison pill in it. Others might admit, sure, it’s just political games, but keeping Democrats out of office is more important than any one bill.
Lastly, it’s not really an attempt to make a positive case of why Harris should be president, it’s solely about trying to cover up a potential weak spot. I see it here in Washington state, where Dave Reichert has been doing nothing put putting up ads explaining that no, he won’t *actually* ban abortion if he becomes governor. That sort of presumes that there’s some major constituency is all but ready to pull the lever for Reichert, but is worried about the abortion thing, or ready to pull the level for Harris, but is worried about the border.
MohatmoGandy on
Good. He’s so vulnerable on immigration. And if she takes that issue away from him, he’s done.
Chad_at_life on
This is really good, but I wish they used a example of when trump blocked/went against something. Eg saying trump blocked more border agents by having the bipartisan border bill struck down.
Hoverkind on
can’t vote for her now that she’s proven she’s a closed borders protectionist succ.
RonocNYC on
Solid message. Terrible execution. This seems like it was done by super amatuers.
chadwarden1337 on
Yea this is it. My god let’s do it
11brooke11 on
Yeah this is good
lurreal on
I disagree with this. The democrats are very VERY associated with pro-immigration. Kamala saying she wants border security doesn’t seem to me that it will convince any voter that considers immigration a high priority issue. Believing that immigration is hurting the country already is a irrational belief!
GenerousPot on
I don’t know if this is particularly convincing even if we love it.
FunHoliday7437 on
Next time, dumb down the wording and use the active voice. Most people are stupid and don’t want to read an essay during an ad break.
chip_0 on
Can we also add in criminal liability for the richest employers of illegal immigrants, like Donald Trump?
ProfessionalFartSmel on
Gitem Kamala
BobaLives on
This is a seriously good ad.
ZanyZeke on
We need comprehensive immigration reform at some point, and that’s gonna have to include making the legal immigration process much easier, but it’s also gonna have to mean securing the border and making the process orderly, not open borders. Sorry, libs
Xeynon on
She can’t win over every border hawk but she can limit the damage this line of attack causes. Pointing out that Trump cynically torpedoed the border bill because he’d rather run on the issue than solve the problem is a good way to do that.
daddyKrugman on
Strongly disagree with the anti-immigration message but I guess if that’s what’s needed to win swing states that’s okay.
As long as dems just do the usual lip service and don’t actually pass any anti-immigration laws, run these ads everywhere.
nominal_goat on
The messaging of this campaign has spoken with such clarity. I had serious doubts about Miss Harris but her campaign has been making great choices thus far.
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In the mist of my worst “It’s Joever,” I found within me an invincible “We’re Kamaling back.”
“Yo I heard Trump joined MS-13 while in jail”
ik our whole deal is “open borders and taco trucks on every corner” but this kinda messaging is needed like hell to win the election
It’s… Too wordy and technical?
For instance, “Supports increasing the number of” -> “wants more” or “will get more”
Also, without the context of why Trump would have blocked those things, people just aren’t going to believe it. The best dunk on this issue is that he intentionally kept the border weak so he could run on it. “Harris want to fix things, Trump wants to complain”.
Idk I bet they did some focus group testing and this alleviates swing voters’ fear that dems don’t care abt the border or something, but it doesn’t feel very effective.
I like it overall, but the music feels like way too much. It’s fine that it’s doing it, but feels too on the nose to the point of manipulative. But maybe american political ads are just like that.
Are they referencing Republican legislators and ascribing it to Trump?
This feels like an atrocious ad. It doesn’t sound serious, it’s too wordy, and it whiffs on the biggest hit: Trump blocked the bill *because he wanted to campaign on it.*
Yessss bring their stupid fucking self-veto of that bill back into the fore. It was ridiculous and stupid as all fuck and they aren’t shat on nearly enough for it. Make it the biggest mistake they’ve made in years.
Iiih. First of all it’s an internet ad, so I don’t know who ever is going to see it.
Secondly, the things Trump “blocked” are very much against what his stated position is, and there’s no citation, so it’s very easy for a Trump supporter to dismiss this ad as a complete fabrication.
Almost certainly the ad is referring to [the bill that was introduced in February](https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/news/majority/murray-releases-text-of-bipartisan-national-security-supplemental) by a trio of senators (Murphy (D-CT), Sinema (I-AZ), and Lankford (R-OK)). It was [rejected by Senate Republicans](https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/07/politics/senate-border-ukraine-israel-aid-vote/index.html), reportedly [due to pressure from Trump](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html) who called it “too weak”.
Is he playing political games? Of course. But is that what Republican voters want their politicians to be doing, just try to score cheap political points on Democrats, rather than actually trying to solve problems? Also yes.
So no, this is not going to move the needle on who is stronger on the border. Most conservatives will say, if Trump says it’s bad, then there must have been something really bad in it. Obviously if any Democrats were involved in the bill, there must be some poison pill in it. Others might admit, sure, it’s just political games, but keeping Democrats out of office is more important than any one bill.
Lastly, it’s not really an attempt to make a positive case of why Harris should be president, it’s solely about trying to cover up a potential weak spot. I see it here in Washington state, where Dave Reichert has been doing nothing put putting up ads explaining that no, he won’t *actually* ban abortion if he becomes governor. That sort of presumes that there’s some major constituency is all but ready to pull the lever for Reichert, but is worried about the abortion thing, or ready to pull the level for Harris, but is worried about the border.
Good. He’s so vulnerable on immigration. And if she takes that issue away from him, he’s done.
This is really good, but I wish they used a example of when trump blocked/went against something. Eg saying trump blocked more border agents by having the bipartisan border bill struck down.
can’t vote for her now that she’s proven she’s a closed borders protectionist succ.
Solid message. Terrible execution. This seems like it was done by super amatuers.
Yea this is it. My god let’s do it
Yeah this is good
I disagree with this. The democrats are very VERY associated with pro-immigration. Kamala saying she wants border security doesn’t seem to me that it will convince any voter that considers immigration a high priority issue. Believing that immigration is hurting the country already is a irrational belief!
I don’t know if this is particularly convincing even if we love it.
Next time, dumb down the wording and use the active voice. Most people are stupid and don’t want to read an essay during an ad break.
Can we also add in criminal liability for the richest employers of illegal immigrants, like Donald Trump?
Gitem Kamala
This is a seriously good ad.
We need comprehensive immigration reform at some point, and that’s gonna have to include making the legal immigration process much easier, but it’s also gonna have to mean securing the border and making the process orderly, not open borders. Sorry, libs
She can’t win over every border hawk but she can limit the damage this line of attack causes. Pointing out that Trump cynically torpedoed the border bill because he’d rather run on the issue than solve the problem is a good way to do that.
Strongly disagree with the anti-immigration message but I guess if that’s what’s needed to win swing states that’s okay.
As long as dems just do the usual lip service and don’t actually pass any anti-immigration laws, run these ads everywhere.
The messaging of this campaign has spoken with such clarity. I had serious doubts about Miss Harris but her campaign has been making great choices thus far.