Venezuela’s Official Election Results Published by the Government Are Perfectly Round to the First Decimal. No Actual District-Level Vote Tallies Have Been Released, Only These “Vote Totals”
Venezuela’s Official Election Results Published by the Government Are Perfectly Round to the First Decimal. No Actual District-Level Vote Tallies Have Been Released, Only These “Vote Totals”
yeah it takes some brains to be good at faking data and these guys don’t have it.
WiSeWoRd on
lmao the 4.6 rears its head again
ComprehensiveHawk5 on
I think the voters just coordinated to cause this. Maduro is actually the real victim here
pabloguy_ya on
Those are some nice looking even numbers. All looks legit
BicyclingBro on
The one solace I always take in politics is that autocrats are almost always utter morons.
Which isn’t just some happy coincidence, of course. In autocracy, loyalty and appeasing the leader is always rewarded more than actual competence or accurately delivering difficult truths.
KeikakuAccelerator on
This is hilarious and sad at the same time.
crassreductionist on
why is this upvoted lol it’s just an excel sheet rounded up, 5150092/10058774 is not .5120000
throwawayzxkjvct on
I used to think that autocrats gave ridiculous fake election numbers because they didn’t care about how nonsensical it looked
Now I think they do it because they’re genuinely too stupid to fake it convincingly
Shalaiyn on
Isn’t the argument when Russia does this that it’s a power play? That they make it so obvious to demoralise the furthest opposition? Making it seem moot when you can make it so blatant yet nothing will happen?
LNhart on
Seems like an unlikely thing to happen, but the election observers by the DSA International Committee have already assuaged my fears and confirmed that this was all by the book.
chepulis on
It’s actually
`0,51199997136828`
`0,4419999893`
`0,0460000394`
Which is still quite close to second decimal place. It seems it takes ~1k votes to shift 0.01%, so this outcome is one-in-a-thousand? I want actual stats nerds to give some stats takes.
Demortus on
Holy shit, at first I thought someone made up the percentages as a joke, but no, they check out:
What are the odds, a million to one? Venezuela just hit the jackpot!
Xeynon on
It’s one thing to blatantly falsify the results of an election. It’s quite another to do it this badly.
thegoatmenace on
You think the guy that put this together slapped his forehead when he realized it’s actually pretty unlikely that someone would get exactly 51.2% of 10,000,000 votes?
seattle_lib on
to put it another way, if you took one vote away from ‘others’ or added one to maduro or urrutia, it would cross over the single decimal threshold.
if you round the total votes to 10 million, then a tenth of a percent is 10 thousand voters. For every 10K votes, two of them lie on this threshold. So it’s a 1 in 5000 chance for a single vote total to exactly reach that first decimal.
For two of them to lie on that point, that’s another 1 in 5000 chance, or 1 in 25 million.
Prudent-Experience-3 on
Only failed people aka communists and socialists believe this election
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Huh that’s a wild coincidence
yeah it takes some brains to be good at faking data and these guys don’t have it.
lmao the 4.6 rears its head again
I think the voters just coordinated to cause this. Maduro is actually the real victim here
Those are some nice looking even numbers. All looks legit
The one solace I always take in politics is that autocrats are almost always utter morons.
Which isn’t just some happy coincidence, of course. In autocracy, loyalty and appeasing the leader is always rewarded more than actual competence or accurately delivering difficult truths.
This is hilarious and sad at the same time.
why is this upvoted lol it’s just an excel sheet rounded up, 5150092/10058774 is not .5120000
I used to think that autocrats gave ridiculous fake election numbers because they didn’t care about how nonsensical it looked
Now I think they do it because they’re genuinely too stupid to fake it convincingly
Isn’t the argument when Russia does this that it’s a power play? That they make it so obvious to demoralise the furthest opposition? Making it seem moot when you can make it so blatant yet nothing will happen?
Seems like an unlikely thing to happen, but the election observers by the DSA International Committee have already assuaged my fears and confirmed that this was all by the book.
It’s actually
`0,51199997136828`
`0,4419999893`
`0,0460000394`
Which is still quite close to second decimal place. It seems it takes ~1k votes to shift 0.01%, so this outcome is one-in-a-thousand? I want actual stats nerds to give some stats takes.
Holy shit, at first I thought someone made up the percentages as a joke, but no, they check out:
https://preview.redd.it/84nakuaozpfd1.png?width=172&format=png&auto=webp&s=35a2fb6194967116db69134ef7f0db7cef1ee25f
I don’t think I’ve ever seen data faker than this before
Maduro was trailing Edmundo Gonzalez by 40 points in polls right before this election, and his approval ratings were 12.5%.
Source: [https://www.as-coa.org/articles/poll-tracker-venezuelas-2024-presidential-election](https://www.as-coa.org/articles/poll-tracker-venezuelas-2024-presidential-election)
They even half assed their fake results?
Hilarious
That’s not suspicious at all
https://preview.redd.it/4jvu3eup5qfd1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f3ead57a74de252536e5f0936aa525c40c78e38
Pringles and the boys at Caracas international airport in 24 hours
I ran a Monte Carlo simulation of 73,688,480 elections using the reported vote totals:
* Simulated 10,058,774 votes per election
* Checked how often all percentages came out as multiples of 0.1%
Results:
* Probability: 0.00000007 (approx. 1 in 14,737,696)
* 95% Confidence Interval: (0.00000001, 0.00000013)
In other words, you’d expect to see this outcome naturally about once every 14.7 million elections.
Obviously they were using COBOL and someone messed up the fixed-point format.
It doesn’t match exactly
https://preview.redd.it/l4e71q9rhqfd1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=210d219383d04813db030f74de82b53d5aad483f
Those darn significant figures playing tricks again
“Looks good to me” -DSA
Benford’s law just had a stroke.
Devil’s advocate: it’s possible this is due to incompetence, not fraud. It just takes a mistake in an Excel sheet somewhere.
What’s the closest to a from-the-horse’s-mouth source for these numbers?
EDIT: Looks like there was a press briefing with the numbers https://x.com/estendenciavzl/status/1817776201471013064
What are the odds, a million to one? Venezuela just hit the jackpot!
It’s one thing to blatantly falsify the results of an election. It’s quite another to do it this badly.
You think the guy that put this together slapped his forehead when he realized it’s actually pretty unlikely that someone would get exactly 51.2% of 10,000,000 votes?
to put it another way, if you took one vote away from ‘others’ or added one to maduro or urrutia, it would cross over the single decimal threshold.
if you round the total votes to 10 million, then a tenth of a percent is 10 thousand voters. For every 10K votes, two of them lie on this threshold. So it’s a 1 in 5000 chance for a single vote total to exactly reach that first decimal.
For two of them to lie on that point, that’s another 1 in 5000 chance, or 1 in 25 million.
Only failed people aka communists and socialists believe this election