Does anyone actually still care about these opinion polls post-2024? Trump ran a campaign explicitly on deportations and won the only poll that actually matters.
unicorn_salad on
Personally, no
puffic on
I don’t, but is he actually doing mass deportations, or is he doing mass media coverage of normal deportations?
Failsnail64 on
It’s frustrating to see how many people accept the inhumane mass deportations. The difference in outcome between these questions also really strike me as how vibe-based the average voter is.
*”Deporting all immigrants living in the United States illegally”* net +6
*”Deporting all immigrants living in the United States illegally, even if that means they will be separated from their children who are citizens”* net -27
What do the people who answered positively on the first but negatively on the second even think? That mass deportations will happen civilized, and that no family will be hurt in the proces? Do they even think for a second about what mass deportations would mean in terms of human suffering?
I think that the reason people answer so differently between the questions is because the first question is generalized, so people don’t empathize. The second question is specific, dramatic, and easily to relate to, so people start to empathize.
However to me, this is extremely superficial and stupid. If you (wrongly) think that all illegal immigrants should be deported, you should have consciously considered and accepted the human suffering it would cause. If you’re against “Arresting children who are in the country illegally while they are at school”, you also shouldn’t be in favour of indiscriminate mass deportations.
There shouldn’t be a substantial difference between the answer to some of these questions. These answers are vibe-based and show a perplexing lack of both thought and real empathy.
Reddenbawker on
>Do they even think for a second about what mass deportations would mean in terms of human suffering?
No, they don’t. I am convinced that most people are functionally incapable of self-doubt and introspection. It’s much easier to just swirl around in your initial emotional reaction than it is to think critically about your own beliefs.
I find this endlessly frustrating when I try to talk to people. These sorts of stats just reinforce this cynicism.
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Does anyone actually still care about these opinion polls post-2024? Trump ran a campaign explicitly on deportations and won the only poll that actually matters.
Personally, no
I don’t, but is he actually doing mass deportations, or is he doing mass media coverage of normal deportations?
It’s frustrating to see how many people accept the inhumane mass deportations. The difference in outcome between these questions also really strike me as how vibe-based the average voter is.
*”Deporting all immigrants living in the United States illegally”* net +6
*”Deporting all immigrants living in the United States illegally, even if that means they will be separated from their children who are citizens”* net -27
What do the people who answered positively on the first but negatively on the second even think? That mass deportations will happen civilized, and that no family will be hurt in the proces? Do they even think for a second about what mass deportations would mean in terms of human suffering?
I think that the reason people answer so differently between the questions is because the first question is generalized, so people don’t empathize. The second question is specific, dramatic, and easily to relate to, so people start to empathize.
However to me, this is extremely superficial and stupid. If you (wrongly) think that all illegal immigrants should be deported, you should have consciously considered and accepted the human suffering it would cause. If you’re against “Arresting children who are in the country illegally while they are at school”, you also shouldn’t be in favour of indiscriminate mass deportations.
There shouldn’t be a substantial difference between the answer to some of these questions. These answers are vibe-based and show a perplexing lack of both thought and real empathy.
>Do they even think for a second about what mass deportations would mean in terms of human suffering?
No, they don’t. I am convinced that most people are functionally incapable of self-doubt and introspection. It’s much easier to just swirl around in your initial emotional reaction than it is to think critically about your own beliefs.
I find this endlessly frustrating when I try to talk to people. These sorts of stats just reinforce this cynicism.