There is a 0% chance that someone as stupid as Trump would ever be able to get a good deal, so that’s terrible news.
fightclubegg on
Ukraine doesn’t deserve this
abrookerunsthroughit on
They’re going to keep Zelensky out of the loop, aren’t they?
justbuildmorehousing on
Another day in Trump world: ‘tough on our allies and soft on ours foes’
GovernorSonGoku on
>>Hegseth: “The US does not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement.”
I like how Trump’s idea of a peace plan is to give Putin what he wants
jeremy9931 on
Based off how negotiations for Afghanistan went, I expect nothing but complete withdrawal of all US support to Ukraine & lifting sanctions against Russia within weeks.
Hope Europe is ready to step up.
Y0___0Y on
Trump is going to “negotiate” a peace deal with Putin (leaving out Zelensky) that will give Putin everything he wants
And then they will present the deal to Zelensky, who will reject it. Trump will declare Zelensky the aggressor and Putin the peacemaker and will demand US aid to Ukraine is cut.
But Ukraine will not stop fighting even if they lose US aid. And I doubt Trump even has the votes to cut aid to Ukraine through congress. The Democrats will have leverage in these upcoming budget negotiations because Trump needs to raise the debt ceiling and he doesn’t have enough Republican support to donthat with no Democrat votes.
ale_93113 on
I wonder, what would happen if the US and Russia agree to a treaty but the EU and Ukraine don’t?
Connect_Bar_8529 on
RVN and Afghanistan: First time?
InternationalSnoop on
This is good…Trump is actually doing something.
“His predecessor, President Joe Biden, hadn’t spoken to his Russian counterpart in nearly three years.”
Absolutely wild that Biden didn’t speak with Putin — friend or enemy, they are one of the largest global powers and dialogue needs to be consistent.
markelwayne on
Trump might as well bring in Zalmay Khalizad, he already has experience negotiating an ally’s surrender
gritsal on
It is very telling that in Ukraine we have a democracy totally centered around fighting a war (what many on the right want), where they are in an existential fight to stay alive, and where people are saying that they want to remain a democracy and remain an independent country and the right is just like “nah.”
If you don’t support Ukraine and their fight and see that it is a moral imperative then you have no heart and frankly that courage you want to embody looks a lot more like cowardice
zaporozhets on
The article says both Putin and Trump would visit each other’s countries.
The idea of allowing Putin to set foot in the US after everything he did is absolutely nauseating.
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There is a 0% chance that someone as stupid as Trump would ever be able to get a good deal, so that’s terrible news.
Ukraine doesn’t deserve this
They’re going to keep Zelensky out of the loop, aren’t they?
Another day in Trump world: ‘tough on our allies and soft on ours foes’
>>Hegseth: “The US does not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement.”
I like how Trump’s idea of a peace plan is to give Putin what he wants
Based off how negotiations for Afghanistan went, I expect nothing but complete withdrawal of all US support to Ukraine & lifting sanctions against Russia within weeks.
Hope Europe is ready to step up.
Trump is going to “negotiate” a peace deal with Putin (leaving out Zelensky) that will give Putin everything he wants
And then they will present the deal to Zelensky, who will reject it. Trump will declare Zelensky the aggressor and Putin the peacemaker and will demand US aid to Ukraine is cut.
But Ukraine will not stop fighting even if they lose US aid. And I doubt Trump even has the votes to cut aid to Ukraine through congress. The Democrats will have leverage in these upcoming budget negotiations because Trump needs to raise the debt ceiling and he doesn’t have enough Republican support to donthat with no Democrat votes.
I wonder, what would happen if the US and Russia agree to a treaty but the EU and Ukraine don’t?
RVN and Afghanistan: First time?
This is good…Trump is actually doing something.
“His predecessor, President Joe Biden, hadn’t spoken to his Russian counterpart in nearly three years.”
Absolutely wild that Biden didn’t speak with Putin — friend or enemy, they are one of the largest global powers and dialogue needs to be consistent.
Trump might as well bring in Zalmay Khalizad, he already has experience negotiating an ally’s surrender
It is very telling that in Ukraine we have a democracy totally centered around fighting a war (what many on the right want), where they are in an existential fight to stay alive, and where people are saying that they want to remain a democracy and remain an independent country and the right is just like “nah.”
If you don’t support Ukraine and their fight and see that it is a moral imperative then you have no heart and frankly that courage you want to embody looks a lot more like cowardice
The article says both Putin and Trump would visit each other’s countries.
The idea of allowing Putin to set foot in the US after everything he did is absolutely nauseating.