Opinion | James Carville: It’s Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats – “roll over and play dead. Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us”
Opinion | James Carville: It’s Time for a Daring Political Maneuver, Democrats – “roll over and play dead. Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us”
Not exactly a popular opinion, but he’s probably not wrong either. What is the alternative? Just be really loud and annoying? The hard truth is Dems have no power to stop Trump at the moment, November was the worst case scenario. Better to keep our heads low and let Trump make it very *very* clear this is HIS government so people know who to point the finger at when things inevitably start going to shit.
Kawaii_West on
Might be a bit dramatic, but I do agree that this is a one of those situations where you let your enemy keep making mistakes.
Soft-Mongoose-4304 on
Trump’s only real talent is being oppositional. Hes not good at actually building or creating anything, just raging at stuff.
I think the first few weeks have shown us that
If he has no one to fight he’s just going to self destruction under his own stupidity/lack of ability
In other words ignore the troll.
Xeynon on
I halfway agree.
They should let Republicans try to govern and own the consequences when they inevitably fail. No votes to e.g. pass a shitty budget if Johnson can’t get them from his own caucus.
But they should also be as loud, insistent, and relentlessly critical as possible to pound the message that Republicans are stupid, incompetent, and malicious into voters’ heads. The majority coalition the GOP currently has is narrow and fragile and can be pulverized easily with the right messaging.
Love him or hate him, what Sanders is doing by going to red districts and rallying to tell voters how their representatives are betraying them is smart politics.
GogurtFiend on
Carville is a smart guy. He is not some two-bit D-list pundit — he’s our evil genius, the guy who originated “it’s the economy, stupid”. He’s the sort of operator the Harris and Clinton campaigns *should’ve* hired. Maybe Carville will be incorrect about public support for the Trump administration having tanked inside the next month, but that’s falsifiable, so it’s a legitimate idea.
If he says something, I’d listen. Going dark for a while, waiting for Virginia to be a shitshow for Republicans, then going on the offensive once it does and their infighting deepens — I agree that should be what Democrats are doing right now.
~~Watch them fuck it up anyway lmao who am I kidding they’re Dems~~
rozokol on
I’d agree if only trump wasn’t a clear authoritarian who wants to destroy democracy. if you roll over and play dead and it fails, we’re all fucked
abrookerunsthroughit on
Well, might as well try it
datums on
People on r/neoliberal will really be like “you believe in doing nothing? that pales in effectiveness to my strategy, doing anything” and then not do anything.
jigma101 on
Man whose advice has not been useful in any election in a year that begins in “2” has more advice for the Dems.
’04 – advised Kerry, Kerry lost
’06 – got mad that Howard Dean’s 50 states strategy paid off and gave Dems control of both houses of Congress, calling for his ousting.
’08 – advised Clinton, Clinton lost. Carville proceded to make racist jabs against Obama for the next 8 years because he was salty
’20 – endorsed *Michael Bennet*, who most people would not even remember ran.
’22 – went all in on Conor Lamb against Fetterman, lost.
’24 – advised Harris, lost.
Y0___0Y on
The low information voters that determine elections hate it when any politician says anything. They hate being reminded that politics exist and they know nothing about the topic and it makes them feel stupid.
Trump’s being a loud asshole every day, and his approval rating is tanking. Why should the Democrats be vocal?
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They are going to interfere in future elections.
Hey, if it works for Xi…
Not exactly a popular opinion, but he’s probably not wrong either. What is the alternative? Just be really loud and annoying? The hard truth is Dems have no power to stop Trump at the moment, November was the worst case scenario. Better to keep our heads low and let Trump make it very *very* clear this is HIS government so people know who to point the finger at when things inevitably start going to shit.
Might be a bit dramatic, but I do agree that this is a one of those situations where you let your enemy keep making mistakes.
Trump’s only real talent is being oppositional. Hes not good at actually building or creating anything, just raging at stuff.
I think the first few weeks have shown us that
If he has no one to fight he’s just going to self destruction under his own stupidity/lack of ability
In other words ignore the troll.
I halfway agree.
They should let Republicans try to govern and own the consequences when they inevitably fail. No votes to e.g. pass a shitty budget if Johnson can’t get them from his own caucus.
But they should also be as loud, insistent, and relentlessly critical as possible to pound the message that Republicans are stupid, incompetent, and malicious into voters’ heads. The majority coalition the GOP currently has is narrow and fragile and can be pulverized easily with the right messaging.
Love him or hate him, what Sanders is doing by going to red districts and rallying to tell voters how their representatives are betraying them is smart politics.
Carville is a smart guy. He is not some two-bit D-list pundit — he’s our evil genius, the guy who originated “it’s the economy, stupid”. He’s the sort of operator the Harris and Clinton campaigns *should’ve* hired. Maybe Carville will be incorrect about public support for the Trump administration having tanked inside the next month, but that’s falsifiable, so it’s a legitimate idea.
If he says something, I’d listen. Going dark for a while, waiting for Virginia to be a shitshow for Republicans, then going on the offensive once it does and their infighting deepens — I agree that should be what Democrats are doing right now.
~~Watch them fuck it up anyway lmao who am I kidding they’re Dems~~
I’d agree if only trump wasn’t a clear authoritarian who wants to destroy democracy. if you roll over and play dead and it fails, we’re all fucked
Well, might as well try it
People on r/neoliberal will really be like “you believe in doing nothing? that pales in effectiveness to my strategy, doing anything” and then not do anything.
Man whose advice has not been useful in any election in a year that begins in “2” has more advice for the Dems.
’04 – advised Kerry, Kerry lost
’06 – got mad that Howard Dean’s 50 states strategy paid off and gave Dems control of both houses of Congress, calling for his ousting.
’08 – advised Clinton, Clinton lost. Carville proceded to make racist jabs against Obama for the next 8 years because he was salty
’20 – endorsed *Michael Bennet*, who most people would not even remember ran.
’22 – went all in on Conor Lamb against Fetterman, lost.
’24 – advised Harris, lost.
The low information voters that determine elections hate it when any politician says anything. They hate being reminded that politics exist and they know nothing about the topic and it makes them feel stupid.
Trump’s being a loud asshole every day, and his approval rating is tanking. Why should the Democrats be vocal?