The same deal that he bragged about tearing to shreds?
TheRedCr0w on
The Iranians already got all of its frozen money out of American banks, most statutory sanctions on Iran make tarrifs aganist them pointless, and the Iranians know the American public will not stomach a war between the two countries.
Empty threats from an idiot who lost any leverage he had with Iran by tearing up the original nuclear deal.
TechnicalInternet1 on
Nice headline for MAGA folks to think he does not support Iran.
(Supporting Russia is the same as supporting Iran and Palestine LOL).
AI_Renaissance on
Now that he’s backing down on Greenland under the delusion he thinks they want to be American, and push back by republicans, he’s trying to start wars in other places instead.
Building up in preparation for Iran while taking pot shots at the Houthis (as if that is the main focus) is totally something Trump would think is super smart. But so transparent
ShouldersofGiants100 on
Do I want Iran to be a nuclear power?
Absolutely fucking not.
Do I blame them in the slightest if they decide they have no other choice?
Not really.
This is not only the end result of Trump’s worldview, it’s the natural outcome of the West refusing to hit Russia as hard as they could in both 2014 and 2022. When you make it clear that nuclear powers will **never** be held accountable for their actions, anyone who fears they might run afoul of a nuclear power only really has two options: Capitulate or join the club.
That logic might take time to trickle down, but it is going to and it will happen to both countries the west likes and ones it doesn’t. Because ultimately, everyone can look at what is happening to Ukraine and conclude that none of it would have happened if a march on Kyiv could have been met with a mushroom cloud over Moscow.
This is literally the exact same calculus that made Israel a nuclear power. The best defence against the threat of being overrun in a conventional war is the absolute assurance that your attackers will die by the millions even in victory. And the west has made that logic go global.
Threats like this will only serve to worsen it, because Iran knows damn well that the US wouldn’t be able to make good on these threats if they could point their weapons straight at Israel, even if their ability to directly hit the US is limited. Or delete an entire carrier strike group.
Terrariola on
I’m kind of hoping there *is* no nuclear deal. Iran as it stands is a terrorist state – the faster its economy collapses, the sooner they stop being able to pay their armed forces.
No lifting of sanctions. There should be a total embargo, possibly even a blockade. Freeze all their assets across the planet. Target IRGC operations across Europe and the Middle East.
Push them into a corner, and eventually the risk/reward balance for an Artesh general will shift in favour of rebellion. The people will join them, and one fewer beacon of autocracy will be present in the world.
ChillnShill on
Something something John Kerry saying war is more likely without a nuclear deal blah, blah, blah 😒
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It’s like a child speaking
The same deal that he bragged about tearing to shreds?
The Iranians already got all of its frozen money out of American banks, most statutory sanctions on Iran make tarrifs aganist them pointless, and the Iranians know the American public will not stomach a war between the two countries.
Empty threats from an idiot who lost any leverage he had with Iran by tearing up the original nuclear deal.
Nice headline for MAGA folks to think he does not support Iran.
(Supporting Russia is the same as supporting Iran and Palestine LOL).
Now that he’s backing down on Greenland under the delusion he thinks they want to be American, and push back by republicans, he’s trying to start wars in other places instead.
https://preview.redd.it/i9t7jbcw1ire1.jpeg?width=1086&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f3b7ed2f8c82aa4bbf158649d1f4eecd8333415
They say this is for potentially ramping up operations against the houthis
https://www.twz.com/air/signs-u-s-massing-b-2-spirit-bombers-in-diego-garcia
Iran better watch their ass 😂
Building up in preparation for Iran while taking pot shots at the Houthis (as if that is the main focus) is totally something Trump would think is super smart. But so transparent
Do I want Iran to be a nuclear power?
Absolutely fucking not.
Do I blame them in the slightest if they decide they have no other choice?
Not really.
This is not only the end result of Trump’s worldview, it’s the natural outcome of the West refusing to hit Russia as hard as they could in both 2014 and 2022. When you make it clear that nuclear powers will **never** be held accountable for their actions, anyone who fears they might run afoul of a nuclear power only really has two options: Capitulate or join the club.
That logic might take time to trickle down, but it is going to and it will happen to both countries the west likes and ones it doesn’t. Because ultimately, everyone can look at what is happening to Ukraine and conclude that none of it would have happened if a march on Kyiv could have been met with a mushroom cloud over Moscow.
This is literally the exact same calculus that made Israel a nuclear power. The best defence against the threat of being overrun in a conventional war is the absolute assurance that your attackers will die by the millions even in victory. And the west has made that logic go global.
Threats like this will only serve to worsen it, because Iran knows damn well that the US wouldn’t be able to make good on these threats if they could point their weapons straight at Israel, even if their ability to directly hit the US is limited. Or delete an entire carrier strike group.
I’m kind of hoping there *is* no nuclear deal. Iran as it stands is a terrorist state – the faster its economy collapses, the sooner they stop being able to pay their armed forces.
No lifting of sanctions. There should be a total embargo, possibly even a blockade. Freeze all their assets across the planet. Target IRGC operations across Europe and the Middle East.
Push them into a corner, and eventually the risk/reward balance for an Artesh general will shift in favour of rebellion. The people will join them, and one fewer beacon of autocracy will be present in the world.
Something something John Kerry saying war is more likely without a nuclear deal blah, blah, blah 😒