> Surrogacy is already illegal if conducted in Italy. But the government of Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni wants to expand the prohibition. It has promoted a bill that would also punish Italians who make use of surrogacy even in places abroad where it is legal, like in parts of the United States. Those Italians who do could face up to two years in prison and be fined the equivalent of about a million dollars.
> “I can’t tell I am about to become a father,” one of the future fathers said. The other added, “We can’t tell our story, because my government is persecuting me and my family.”
And they are going after existing parents too.
> Ms. Meloni’s government has sought to vigorously enforce a court decision that had barred a mayor from registering children born through surrogacy abroad as having two fathers. Cities that used to issue such certificates, like Milan, stopped doing so.
The government’s directive has had the ripple effect of encouraging Italian prosecutors in several cities to also revise the birth certificates of children born to lesbian couples.
In the northern city of Padua, prosecutors are now trying to remove at least 38 mothers from the birth certificates of their children.
Not even lesbians with one being a biological parent.
> Like other gay parents, Ms. Bruni is considering leaving the country, but for now she has to stay put because of her cancer treatment. When her case went to court, Ms. Bruni said, she listed to the judges what she considered the serious problems facing the world: wars, violence, abuse. “And we are here for what?” she asked. “Because I have a child with the woman I love?”
She’s fighting cancer and their 1-year old could become an orphan in the eyes of the state. And her partner can’t even do an adoption later because adoption is only for heterosexual couples. I can’t see how even conservatives who claim to give a shit about children’s welfare be okay with any of this.
Two_Corinthians on
*Every time we think about same-sex parents*
*”Oh, my gosh!” we exclaim*
*I mean, two people who want to provide a protective*
*And nurturing family environment*
*Have they no shame?*
*It’s so deviant!*
*It’s the Lord’s holy word, as my second wife said to my third*
*That a family’s based on obligation and fear!*
*[…]*
*One summer evening when my woman was doing laundry*
*I shared a six-pack with an old John Bircher*
*And oh so wisely he imparted an ancient quandary, to ponder*
*He said, “It’s nature versus legislature.”*
Acacias2001 on
I’m 5 really sure this is a great example of far right radicalism of melonis part. I believe the left wing PSOE has tried to pass a similar law before in spain
ErrorCodeViper on
This is like one of the few good things Meloni’s government proposes and it’s suddenly what has this sub decrying her as “far right” give me a break.
Edit: the surrogacy stuff is good, going after gays adopting is lame.
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> Surrogacy is already illegal if conducted in Italy. But the government of Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni wants to expand the prohibition. It has promoted a bill that would also punish Italians who make use of surrogacy even in places abroad where it is legal, like in parts of the United States. Those Italians who do could face up to two years in prison and be fined the equivalent of about a million dollars.
> “I can’t tell I am about to become a father,” one of the future fathers said. The other added, “We can’t tell our story, because my government is persecuting me and my family.”
And they are going after existing parents too.
> Ms. Meloni’s government has sought to vigorously enforce a court decision that had barred a mayor from registering children born through surrogacy abroad as having two fathers. Cities that used to issue such certificates, like Milan, stopped doing so.
The government’s directive has had the ripple effect of encouraging Italian prosecutors in several cities to also revise the birth certificates of children born to lesbian couples.
In the northern city of Padua, prosecutors are now trying to remove at least 38 mothers from the birth certificates of their children.
Not even lesbians with one being a biological parent.
> Like other gay parents, Ms. Bruni is considering leaving the country, but for now she has to stay put because of her cancer treatment. When her case went to court, Ms. Bruni said, she listed to the judges what she considered the serious problems facing the world: wars, violence, abuse. “And we are here for what?” she asked. “Because I have a child with the woman I love?”
She’s fighting cancer and their 1-year old could become an orphan in the eyes of the state. And her partner can’t even do an adoption later because adoption is only for heterosexual couples. I can’t see how even conservatives who claim to give a shit about children’s welfare be okay with any of this.
*Every time we think about same-sex parents*
*”Oh, my gosh!” we exclaim*
*I mean, two people who want to provide a protective*
*And nurturing family environment*
*Have they no shame?*
*It’s so deviant!*
*It’s the Lord’s holy word, as my second wife said to my third*
*That a family’s based on obligation and fear!*
*[…]*
*One summer evening when my woman was doing laundry*
*I shared a six-pack with an old John Bircher*
*And oh so wisely he imparted an ancient quandary, to ponder*
*He said, “It’s nature versus legislature.”*
I’m 5 really sure this is a great example of far right radicalism of melonis part. I believe the left wing PSOE has tried to pass a similar law before in spain
This is like one of the few good things Meloni’s government proposes and it’s suddenly what has this sub decrying her as “far right” give me a break.
Edit: the surrogacy stuff is good, going after gays adopting is lame.