That’s ridiculous! Those panels must emit something toxic when they bake all day.
Exo-Proctologist on
Green Energy is just any energy that is naturally renewable *and* also have a *smaller* footprint on the environment compared to fossil fuels. Not zero, but smaller. It’s true that solar technology hasn’t caught up to the efficiency of fossil fuels, but that’s because we’ve spent 200 years as a species developing the latter and only a quarter of that developing the former.
>have a very short lifespan
This is also a straight up lie, which is on par for your posts. Solar panels are currently rated to 25 to 30 years, but the resource itself, the *fucking sun,* still has another 4.6 billion years left in it. Fossil fuel power plants last upwards of 50 years *with heavy maintenance and upgrades,* and their resource is finite. Most oil and gas wells are exhausted within 30 years.
keplinkeplar on
Nuclear reactors would be more sensible. But anything other than coal is an improvement.
ky420 on
🙁 I’d rather look at a nuke plant
ProtectedHologram on
Each of those strips is 30×4 panels, so 120 panels x $100 is $12000 per strip JUST for the panels. Let’s guess $20 per panel for structural members and you add $2,400. Now you’re up to $14,400 per strip just for the hardware. Let’s guess $2000 per strip for installation. Up to $16,400 per strip. We’re going to ignore shipping costs.
$16,400 per strip, and i can see about 100 strips in the center row. $1.6M per row. There’s about 10 rows visible so that’s $11.6M.
Now, each panel probably puts out 100 watts. That’s 12kw per strip and 1.2MW per row, for a grand total of 12MW of power. At $0.10 per kwh, the system can earn $1200 an hour. To cover the expense of the initial installation would require 9660 hours of operation at full capacity. It would take 4.4 years (6 hours of usable sunlight per day) to pay for this farm IF the sky was cloudless every day.
After it’s paid for, you could make about $2M a year in profit. If the sun shined every single day. And you didn’t have maintenence or employee costs.
In reality, half of the days are cloudy, so make it 8.8 years to pay for this shit, you’ll get $1M a year income after that if you’re lucky. Now it’s been 10 years and panels will certainly start failing and you’ll have to pay someone to maintain the facility and replace damaged panels. You might make $500K a year now. After about 15 years, “fade” becomes a problem because panels lose efficiency with age. You would be lucky to break even at this point. 20 years from now it’s a giant liability and you’re in debt.
CrazyBigHog on
Won’t all those solar panel owners feel foolish when all the “sun dimming” experiments turn bad.
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Not to mention they are made of materials that are toxic when they decompose and have a very short lifespan
It’s almost like it’s all a grift
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The cost of the Paris accords to (potentially) lower global temps by 0.2 degrees in 80 years….. $100 Trillion Dollars
https://web.archive.org/web/20170503044022/http://www.dailywire.com/news/12519/lomborg-paris-climate-accord-wont-change-climate-aaron-bandler
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That’s ridiculous! Those panels must emit something toxic when they bake all day.
Green Energy is just any energy that is naturally renewable *and* also have a *smaller* footprint on the environment compared to fossil fuels. Not zero, but smaller. It’s true that solar technology hasn’t caught up to the efficiency of fossil fuels, but that’s because we’ve spent 200 years as a species developing the latter and only a quarter of that developing the former.
>have a very short lifespan
This is also a straight up lie, which is on par for your posts. Solar panels are currently rated to 25 to 30 years, but the resource itself, the *fucking sun,* still has another 4.6 billion years left in it. Fossil fuel power plants last upwards of 50 years *with heavy maintenance and upgrades,* and their resource is finite. Most oil and gas wells are exhausted within 30 years.
Nuclear reactors would be more sensible. But anything other than coal is an improvement.
🙁 I’d rather look at a nuke plant
Each of those strips is 30×4 panels, so 120 panels x $100 is $12000 per strip JUST for the panels. Let’s guess $20 per panel for structural members and you add $2,400. Now you’re up to $14,400 per strip just for the hardware. Let’s guess $2000 per strip for installation. Up to $16,400 per strip. We’re going to ignore shipping costs.
$16,400 per strip, and i can see about 100 strips in the center row. $1.6M per row. There’s about 10 rows visible so that’s $11.6M.
Now, each panel probably puts out 100 watts. That’s 12kw per strip and 1.2MW per row, for a grand total of 12MW of power. At $0.10 per kwh, the system can earn $1200 an hour. To cover the expense of the initial installation would require 9660 hours of operation at full capacity. It would take 4.4 years (6 hours of usable sunlight per day) to pay for this farm IF the sky was cloudless every day.
After it’s paid for, you could make about $2M a year in profit. If the sun shined every single day. And you didn’t have maintenence or employee costs.
In reality, half of the days are cloudy, so make it 8.8 years to pay for this shit, you’ll get $1M a year income after that if you’re lucky. Now it’s been 10 years and panels will certainly start failing and you’ll have to pay someone to maintain the facility and replace damaged panels. You might make $500K a year now. After about 15 years, “fade” becomes a problem because panels lose efficiency with age. You would be lucky to break even at this point. 20 years from now it’s a giant liability and you’re in debt.
Won’t all those solar panel owners feel foolish when all the “sun dimming” experiments turn bad.