Early this morning June 1, Ukraine’s SBU launched a surprise drone attack called “Operation Web” from inside Russian territory. Ukraine claims to have destroyed 41 strategic aircraft, including nuclear-capable Tu-22 and Tu-95 bombers, at three airbases throughout Russia.
If this number is legitimate then Ukraine just destroyed 1/3 of Russia’s strategic aircraft in one operation.
WWIII may have just begun…
Posted by According-Sherbet615
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“best I can do is reboot 50’s culture amongst the youths, and maybe start working on power armor”
-DOD
It’s nice to get a few jabs in
Don’t worry, Trump will have this fixed in 24 hours. Trust him
Solutions are keep aircraft (commercial and military) inside or covered by nets unless taking off or landing and keep AA systems around runways
The solution to container ship issue is to not allow any potentially Chinese affiliated container ships near key bases or carriers (near being the longest range of a drone that could be used in a swarm. Drones that can’t be in a swarm are essentially jsut planes and can be shot down conventionally)
I wonder if they’ll respond just like after Pearl harbor.
dont worry. nothing ever happens
It is truly f*cking amazing —> how completely and utterly brainwashed Americans and the general “Western” public are about “who” is the real threat to world peace.
Any war, any incident, absolutely almost any topic – and the MSM, Western Govs + general brainwashed sheeple of the West make the pivot to some kind of “China Bad, China Attack” scenario.
Get this straight in your heads: **USA** is the country that invades and occupies far away lands under false pretenses + kills & tortures millions and destroys those lands.
**USA** is also the country that puts other countries in debt traps, snatches other countries’ territories under revisionist history, exiles its minorities to concentration camps, creates TWO worldwide pandemics (1918 & 2019) in which they withhold information and blame others, and distribute enough fentanyl to kill whole cities. <— Courtesy of Meatgardener (a US Shill).
**USA** is also also the country with ~750 international military bases.
**It is USA that is attacking other countries**, whether it is through military, media, information, cyber or economic sanctions. So, if there is a country with ship-loads of attack drones, then it is **USA**
Reading these comments from someone who has frequented this sub for the past 15 years…
We lost.
*Yawn*
And like Pearl Harbor it destroyed an almost irrelevant symbol of strategic power.
Tu95s are little better than a elaborate suicide ploy against a country with any semblance of contested airspace or a functional air defense system. They are piston driven FFS. They are slow, they are massive on radar, and are completely defenseless without a fighter screen (A Big one, because of the size of a TU95 on radar).
Tu-22 is just a slavshit-tier B1. While it is faster, it really does nothing for weapons delivery in a contested airspace.
Neither is really capable of “stand-off” Nuclear Attacks like the B52 or B1 is, and neither can penetrate airspace like a B2.
Nuclear power/war is projected by Ballistic Missiles. Harder to stop, faster time on target, etc. If they didn’t take out a launch or command silo, or a SSBN, Russian nuclear force projection is fine.
Strategic nuclear bombers are an anarchonism, that suck resources, just like the WWI era BBs at Pearl Harbor. There only use is a “Bolt from the Blue” “stand off” attack where you need warheads on foreheads really quickly with minimal warning, less even than a SSBN can offer. Even then it will only “work” if the enemy AD systems are compromised or non-existent. They also have some utility in tactical nuclear use because its cheaper than using a SLBM or BM (cost of replacement), but the same problems ensue with airdefenses and fighter screens.
If anything this is an example of the attack at Taranto, proof of concept for something else.
ETA:
For another concept of a usuable attack from the Russian perspective.
I’d mass as much airsuperiority fighters in a giant “cloud” backed with ELINT aircraft, to establish “Local Air Superiority/Dominance(if your lucky)” in a narrow corridor towards your target area (in this case it would be Zelensky and any other Ukrainian Pols you can locate), follow up that screen with Tu22s at “Mach Jesus” (IIRC the TU22 has a “War Emergency” throttle position which will cook the engines) as low as you can get them (dunno how good the Soviet Era terrian following software is). Pop-Up, fire the nukes at 15-20 miles (or whatever your max range is if its shorter), then have everyone else haul ass home.
Thats all about a Tu22 is good for.
You gotta suppress enemy AD, and fighters, and get close enough to beat the 6-8 minute warning that a SLBM offers.
So yeah, its a lot of effort to buy you… what 4 minutes max?
Which is why the Tu22 is kinda pointless, because the Russians don’t have the balls (or suicidal intent) to do what I outlined, if it would even work. Because that IS the start of WWIII I’m afraid.
It’s 2025, why are we still killing each other?
Honestly, this kind of drone tech is going to be a massive problem until it isn’t. Now that we’re seeing what actually happens in a modern war where both sides are decently supplied with modern stuff the rest of the world will adapt their research.
We may get a terror attack with these drones, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a new technology that just cuts connection to them past a barrier or knocks them out of the sky etc. Come out very soon.