When they start teaching creationism to my kids, or quoting the Bible in class, will I be allowed to take my children out of school?
ONETRILLIONAMERICANS on
snarky bullseye from Sotomayor in her dissent:
> The majority’s myopic attempt to resolve a major constitutional question through close textual analysis of *Uncle Bobby’s Wedding* also reveals its failure to accept and account for a fundamental truth: LGBTQ people exist. They are part of virtually every community and workplace of any appreciable size. **Eliminating books depicting LGBTQ individuals as happily accepted by their families will not eliminate student exposure to that concept.** Nor does the Free Exercise Clause require the government to alter its programs to insulate students from that “message.”
And yes, that was what Alito was complaining about:
> *Uncle Bobby’s Wedding*, the only book that the dissent is willing to discuss in any detail, conveys the same message more subtly. The atmosphere is jubilant after Uncle Bobby and his boyfriend announce their engagement. Id., at 286a (“Everyone was smiling and talking and crying and laughing” (emphasis added)). The book’s main character, Chloe, does not share this excitement. “ ‘I don’t understand!’ ” she exclaims, “ ‘Why is Uncle Bobby getting married?’ ” Id., at 288a. The book is coy about the precise reason for Chloe’s question, but the question is used to tee up a direct message to young readers: “ ‘Bobby and Jamie love each other,’ said Mummy. ‘When grown-up people love each other that much, sometimes they get married.’ ” Ibid. The book therefore presents a specific, if subtle, message about marriage. It asserts that two people can get married, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex, so long as they “ ‘love each other.’ ” Ibid. That view is now accepted by a great many Americans, but it is directly contrary to the religious principles that the parents in this case wish to instill in their children.
He was just upset that the book showed people being accepting of an LGBT couple.
And a great practical point from Sotomayor:
> The result will be chaos for this Nation’s public schools. Requiring schools to provide advance notice and the chance to opt out of every lesson plan or story time that might implicate a parent’s religious beliefs will impose impossible administrative burdens on schools. The harm will not be borne by educators alone: Children will suffer too. Classroom disruptions and absences may well inflict long-lasting harm on students’ learning and development. Worse yet, the majority closes its eyes to the inevitable chilling effects of its ruling. Many school districts, and particularly the most resource strapped, cannot afford to engage in costly litigation over opt-out rights or to divert resources to tracking and managing student absences. Schools may instead censor their curricula, stripping mate-
rial that risks generating religious objections. The Court’s ruling, in effect, thus hands a subset of parents the right to veto curricular choices long left to locally elected school boards. Because I cannot countenance the Court’s contortion of our precedent and the untold harms that will follow, I dissent.
atierney14 on
This country is so fucking stupid, and objectively, if you cannot teach your kids morals, at least as you see fit, because there’s 1 book that you disagree with, you’re a bad parent.
Like, kids are going to be exposed to a ton of stuff that parents don’t agree with, as a parent, I feel like your job is to teach a kid to be morally upright, at least the best you can in your definition, not try to pretend challenges won’t come up.
These people out themselves as bad parents publicly, and then, their kids will hate them for having regressive ass hole parents.
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Sorry all, I don’t think I can have a reasonable response that focuses on politics because these people just piss me off.
BoltUp69 on
So Texas Ten Commandments in schools law is DOA, right?
Matar_Kubileya on
If I were a high school English teacher I would be so attempted to assign *Thus Spoke Zarathustra* as an alternate assignment.
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When they start teaching creationism to my kids, or quoting the Bible in class, will I be allowed to take my children out of school?
snarky bullseye from Sotomayor in her dissent:
> The majority’s myopic attempt to resolve a major constitutional question through close textual analysis of *Uncle Bobby’s Wedding* also reveals its failure to accept and account for a fundamental truth: LGBTQ people exist. They are part of virtually every community and workplace of any appreciable size. **Eliminating books depicting LGBTQ individuals as happily accepted by their families will not eliminate student exposure to that concept.** Nor does the Free Exercise Clause require the government to alter its programs to insulate students from that “message.”
And yes, that was what Alito was complaining about:
> *Uncle Bobby’s Wedding*, the only book that the dissent is willing to discuss in any detail, conveys the same message more subtly. The atmosphere is jubilant after Uncle Bobby and his boyfriend announce their engagement. Id., at 286a (“Everyone was smiling and talking and crying and laughing” (emphasis added)). The book’s main character, Chloe, does not share this excitement. “ ‘I don’t understand!’ ” she exclaims, “ ‘Why is Uncle Bobby getting married?’ ” Id., at 288a. The book is coy about the precise reason for Chloe’s question, but the question is used to tee up a direct message to young readers: “ ‘Bobby and Jamie love each other,’ said Mummy. ‘When grown-up people love each other that much, sometimes they get married.’ ” Ibid. The book therefore presents a specific, if subtle, message about marriage. It asserts that two people can get married, regardless of whether they are of the same or the opposite sex, so long as they “ ‘love each other.’ ” Ibid. That view is now accepted by a great many Americans, but it is directly contrary to the religious principles that the parents in this case wish to instill in their children.
He was just upset that the book showed people being accepting of an LGBT couple.
And a great practical point from Sotomayor:
> The result will be chaos for this Nation’s public schools. Requiring schools to provide advance notice and the chance to opt out of every lesson plan or story time that might implicate a parent’s religious beliefs will impose impossible administrative burdens on schools. The harm will not be borne by educators alone: Children will suffer too. Classroom disruptions and absences may well inflict long-lasting harm on students’ learning and development. Worse yet, the majority closes its eyes to the inevitable chilling effects of its ruling. Many school districts, and particularly the most resource strapped, cannot afford to engage in costly litigation over opt-out rights or to divert resources to tracking and managing student absences. Schools may instead censor their curricula, stripping mate-
rial that risks generating religious objections. The Court’s ruling, in effect, thus hands a subset of parents the right to veto curricular choices long left to locally elected school boards. Because I cannot countenance the Court’s contortion of our precedent and the untold harms that will follow, I dissent.
This country is so fucking stupid, and objectively, if you cannot teach your kids morals, at least as you see fit, because there’s 1 book that you disagree with, you’re a bad parent.
Like, kids are going to be exposed to a ton of stuff that parents don’t agree with, as a parent, I feel like your job is to teach a kid to be morally upright, at least the best you can in your definition, not try to pretend challenges won’t come up.
These people out themselves as bad parents publicly, and then, their kids will hate them for having regressive ass hole parents.
——————————————————————————-
Sorry all, I don’t think I can have a reasonable response that focuses on politics because these people just piss me off.
So Texas Ten Commandments in schools law is DOA, right?
If I were a high school English teacher I would be so attempted to assign *Thus Spoke Zarathustra* as an alternate assignment.