>Underlying all this was a sense that the progressivism crowding the halls of their high schools was stifling. In that environment, questioning ideas seemed dangerous—and alluring. Preachy, judgmental authority has never sat well with young people. The young people of today see that authority in the establishment left, not the right.
Ah yes, because when Charlie Kirk died, Conservatives said that people were free to debate his legacy and criticize his career, because they truly valued civil discussion and debate, unlike the woke democrats who tried to cancel anyone who remotely criticized him.
Just another bunch of “intellectual”college conservative drivel, I just know this girl would be absolutely insufferable to be around.
ldn6 on
This whole political obsession with college campuses is just weird.
atierney14 on
The whole article reads, “I was able to debate with my peers more than a classroom run by someone senior to me.”
I’m sure there is some valid criticism to a classroom if the lecturer does not foster a good environmental for debate (lol at this conservative needing a safe space), although with modern conservatism, it is hard not to dismiss them out of hand because they’ll often be so fundamentally not based in reality.
I think the rise of the young right has more to do with the fact that far right ideology has been normalized. Now, similar to saying you’re a socialist, one can say they’re an extremist on the right and not be ostracized, at least by everyone. I think young people will always gravitate towards a polar position, especially young and insecure people, and Trump has allowed people to openly say things like, “mass deportation is good.”
Although really with the rise of both groups like the DSA and Trumpian-Rogan-esque-Kirk type young conservatives, the real polarized, badass position is political centralism (center right-center left).
You can catch us all smoking a cigarette stating that there needs to be both supply side and demand side reforms or riding our motorcycles (without a helmet) talking about inclusive institutions.
boyyouguysaredumb on
I think it’s a fantastic article because it sort of challenged what my own ideas were especially being 20 years removed from being on a college campus.
When I was in college the Bush administration was in power and coupled with young people’s general inclination towards the left it seemed like there were no republicans on campus at all (even in Texas) but there was still open debate about different ideas
I can understand the modern left stifling any kind of debate because I see it online all the time. If you don’t agree that capitalism and America are bad and that the corporate democrats rigged the election to keep Bernie out then you’re just a filthy neoliberal shill. I think that’s something that needs to be addressed
What I can’t understand is how a young conservative woman who wants an open debate of ideas and maybe isn’t nevessarily a Trump fan can square any of that with modern conservatism which seems to just be grievance politics and a cult of personality rather than public policy
As is always the case with Trump supporters who seem smart and intellectually curious on the surface I have a deep desire to just confront them with all the inconsistencies and self contradictions and figure out how they’ve even gotten to this place at all
E_Cayce on
> Charlie Kirk […] one principle he stood for—the celebration of debate, of a marketplace of ideas—
These clowns are so deluded. Kirk modus operandi was controlled environments and berating opponents.
New-List-1700 on
I feel like I’ve been reading variations of this article as far back as I can remember. Most of the time its just insufferable people complaining they get push-back on their shitty ideas and attitude.
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>Underlying all this was a sense that the progressivism crowding the halls of their high schools was stifling. In that environment, questioning ideas seemed dangerous—and alluring. Preachy, judgmental authority has never sat well with young people. The young people of today see that authority in the establishment left, not the right.
Ah yes, because when Charlie Kirk died, Conservatives said that people were free to debate his legacy and criticize his career, because they truly valued civil discussion and debate, unlike the woke democrats who tried to cancel anyone who remotely criticized him.
Just another bunch of “intellectual”college conservative drivel, I just know this girl would be absolutely insufferable to be around.
This whole political obsession with college campuses is just weird.
The whole article reads, “I was able to debate with my peers more than a classroom run by someone senior to me.”
I’m sure there is some valid criticism to a classroom if the lecturer does not foster a good environmental for debate (lol at this conservative needing a safe space), although with modern conservatism, it is hard not to dismiss them out of hand because they’ll often be so fundamentally not based in reality.
I think the rise of the young right has more to do with the fact that far right ideology has been normalized. Now, similar to saying you’re a socialist, one can say they’re an extremist on the right and not be ostracized, at least by everyone. I think young people will always gravitate towards a polar position, especially young and insecure people, and Trump has allowed people to openly say things like, “mass deportation is good.”
Although really with the rise of both groups like the DSA and Trumpian-Rogan-esque-Kirk type young conservatives, the real polarized, badass position is political centralism (center right-center left).
You can catch us all smoking a cigarette stating that there needs to be both supply side and demand side reforms or riding our motorcycles (without a helmet) talking about inclusive institutions.
I think it’s a fantastic article because it sort of challenged what my own ideas were especially being 20 years removed from being on a college campus.
When I was in college the Bush administration was in power and coupled with young people’s general inclination towards the left it seemed like there were no republicans on campus at all (even in Texas) but there was still open debate about different ideas
I can understand the modern left stifling any kind of debate because I see it online all the time. If you don’t agree that capitalism and America are bad and that the corporate democrats rigged the election to keep Bernie out then you’re just a filthy neoliberal shill. I think that’s something that needs to be addressed
What I can’t understand is how a young conservative woman who wants an open debate of ideas and maybe isn’t nevessarily a Trump fan can square any of that with modern conservatism which seems to just be grievance politics and a cult of personality rather than public policy
As is always the case with Trump supporters who seem smart and intellectually curious on the surface I have a deep desire to just confront them with all the inconsistencies and self contradictions and figure out how they’ve even gotten to this place at all
> Charlie Kirk […] one principle he stood for—the celebration of debate, of a marketplace of ideas—
These clowns are so deluded. Kirk modus operandi was controlled environments and berating opponents.
I feel like I’ve been reading variations of this article as far back as I can remember. Most of the time its just insufferable people complaining they get push-back on their shitty ideas and attitude.