George Magnus says Carney is right that middle powers must adapt to a changing, fractured global order. However, he warns that China’s mercantilist policies make it an unreliable trade partner for Canada and others. Magnus argues Carney’s call for resilience and diversified alliances is sensible but overestimates China’s reliability. He concludes that disillusionment with US power risks pushing middle powers into strategic dependence on China, and therefore potentially undermining their economic resilience and political independence.
Throwaway24143547 on
Everyone gets that China’s a shitty, unreliable partner but he’s got no choice but to broaden Canada’s horizons as much as possible
Also, even if they’re a shitty partner they still haven’t threatened to fucking annex Canada
Otherwise_Young52201 on
There is no “strategic partnership” with China as the author of this article proclaims. This is more a reseting of trade relationship back to how they were before Canada aligned itself with America’s own industrial policy for electric vehicles.
And for all the author’s talks of overreliance on China, thats not what’s happening here. Carney is visiting other countries as well during his trip and signing deals with them. All signs point towards diversification in general, not necessarily alignment.
Illustrious-Rush8797 on
It’s interesting that the US is trying to head the opposite way in reducing trade with China so they don’t get as much strategic leverage. And diversifying supply chains away from china.
Canada is doing the reverse. I mean maybe short term this makes sense but strategically where is this going to end up. A Canada beholden to China? Make sure that’s where you want to be before you keep on pushing that way
fuggitdude22 on
I’d be Pro-CCP if they were not sterilizing their minorities….The relationship is purely transactional anyways. Post-Cold War, it was always toss up. Republican Presidents would just launch unprovoked wars and the Democrats would be at the mercy of wiping their rears.
Dismal_Interaction71 on
Carney never said that China is more reliable, he said that is more predictable in the way that the relationship has progressed in recent months.
Right now, the USA is neither predictable, nor reliable.
GripenHater on
Carney is getting a lot of praise right now, but I think given his willingness to cozy up to authoritarian regime, lack of a tangible backbone when it comes to actually standing up to hostile powers outside of rhetoric, and blatant anti-American attitudes that seem to be far broader than the Trump issue are going to reflect VERY poorly on him long term.
Planterizer on
If it’s not “Rules-based” it’s not an “order”, it’s just temporarily embarrassed “might makes right”.
Fight me, Carney.
jbouit494hg on
* ~~Mark Carney’s~~ *Donald Trump’s* new world order
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George Magnus says Carney is right that middle powers must adapt to a changing, fractured global order. However, he warns that China’s mercantilist policies make it an unreliable trade partner for Canada and others. Magnus argues Carney’s call for resilience and diversified alliances is sensible but overestimates China’s reliability. He concludes that disillusionment with US power risks pushing middle powers into strategic dependence on China, and therefore potentially undermining their economic resilience and political independence.
Everyone gets that China’s a shitty, unreliable partner but he’s got no choice but to broaden Canada’s horizons as much as possible
Also, even if they’re a shitty partner they still haven’t threatened to fucking annex Canada
There is no “strategic partnership” with China as the author of this article proclaims. This is more a reseting of trade relationship back to how they were before Canada aligned itself with America’s own industrial policy for electric vehicles.
And for all the author’s talks of overreliance on China, thats not what’s happening here. Carney is visiting other countries as well during his trip and signing deals with them. All signs point towards diversification in general, not necessarily alignment.
It’s interesting that the US is trying to head the opposite way in reducing trade with China so they don’t get as much strategic leverage. And diversifying supply chains away from china.
Canada is doing the reverse. I mean maybe short term this makes sense but strategically where is this going to end up. A Canada beholden to China? Make sure that’s where you want to be before you keep on pushing that way
I’d be Pro-CCP if they were not sterilizing their minorities….The relationship is purely transactional anyways. Post-Cold War, it was always toss up. Republican Presidents would just launch unprovoked wars and the Democrats would be at the mercy of wiping their rears.
Carney never said that China is more reliable, he said that is more predictable in the way that the relationship has progressed in recent months.
Right now, the USA is neither predictable, nor reliable.
Carney is getting a lot of praise right now, but I think given his willingness to cozy up to authoritarian regime, lack of a tangible backbone when it comes to actually standing up to hostile powers outside of rhetoric, and blatant anti-American attitudes that seem to be far broader than the Trump issue are going to reflect VERY poorly on him long term.
If it’s not “Rules-based” it’s not an “order”, it’s just temporarily embarrassed “might makes right”.
Fight me, Carney.
* ~~Mark Carney’s~~ *Donald Trump’s* new world order