It’s not ideal that Trump is in power, but he is, and ideally we would like someone else to be in power after him.
Touching the stove isn’t accelerationism, it’s trying to get people to realize that the current acceleration we are experiencing is bad
SilverSquid1810 on
I mean, yeah, my opposition to the types of accelerationism you normally saw on the Internet was moreso because I disagreed with the stated outcome, that being a socialist revolution. Online accelerationism was almost exclusively a far-left phenomenon.
But accelerationism absolutely can work. The Russian Revolution is the absolute perfect example of this. There is no way the Bolsheviks would have been able to go from a fringe group of radicals largely living in exile to the country’s rulers in the span of a few years without the extreme war exhaustion from World War I and the subsequent missteps of the provisional government.
You have to judge these things on a case-by-case basis. Thalmann was a moron because he was rooting for the guy openly calling for the death of communists to become ruler when he was not yet in power. I don’t think any significant number of people on this sub wanted Trump to get elected in the first place. But now that he is in office, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to want him to fail drastically.
jokul on
Trump is already president. Accelerationism would have been pushing for Trump to get elected over Kamala. Why would you want the Trump presidency to go really well? So people can associate “the good times” with Don and feel like he should run again in 2028?
sleepyrivertroll on
Coping mechanisms? In my out of power party?
Cook_0612 on
Depends on what you mean by accelerationism
Below_Left on
Accelerationism is already here and the question is merely how to direct it.
I can see the point insofar as there’s a strategy where you could pour more fuel on the fire (like calling for Dems to shut down the government a few months back) but that’s not what “touch the stove” accelerationism is, it’s just calling for people to face the consequences of their actions.
Arrow_of_Timelines on
Please don’t take this one from me, it’s my only cope left
financeguy1729 on
I mean. I suppose that if you’re liberal, you Jane strong views on why fascism doesn’t work
sumr4ndo on
It is such a bizarre position for people to take. Like hey let’s destroy the safeguards that protect us from those more powerful than us, and without the guardrails, we’ll be in equal footing!
What do you mean they can just mop the floor with us?
What do you mean they’ll still have money and power?
What do you mean it hasn’t ever really worked out the way I’m hoping it will?
There was a weird shift on this sub post Biden winning, like a demographic change or something, where a lot of those unhinged takes took off.
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I mean what’s the alternative?
It’s not ideal that Trump is in power, but he is, and ideally we would like someone else to be in power after him.
Touching the stove isn’t accelerationism, it’s trying to get people to realize that the current acceleration we are experiencing is bad
I mean, yeah, my opposition to the types of accelerationism you normally saw on the Internet was moreso because I disagreed with the stated outcome, that being a socialist revolution. Online accelerationism was almost exclusively a far-left phenomenon.
But accelerationism absolutely can work. The Russian Revolution is the absolute perfect example of this. There is no way the Bolsheviks would have been able to go from a fringe group of radicals largely living in exile to the country’s rulers in the span of a few years without the extreme war exhaustion from World War I and the subsequent missteps of the provisional government.
You have to judge these things on a case-by-case basis. Thalmann was a moron because he was rooting for the guy openly calling for the death of communists to become ruler when he was not yet in power. I don’t think any significant number of people on this sub wanted Trump to get elected in the first place. But now that he is in office, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to want him to fail drastically.
Trump is already president. Accelerationism would have been pushing for Trump to get elected over Kamala. Why would you want the Trump presidency to go really well? So people can associate “the good times” with Don and feel like he should run again in 2028?
Coping mechanisms? In my out of power party?
Depends on what you mean by accelerationism
Accelerationism is already here and the question is merely how to direct it.
I can see the point insofar as there’s a strategy where you could pour more fuel on the fire (like calling for Dems to shut down the government a few months back) but that’s not what “touch the stove” accelerationism is, it’s just calling for people to face the consequences of their actions.
Please don’t take this one from me, it’s my only cope left
I mean. I suppose that if you’re liberal, you Jane strong views on why fascism doesn’t work
It is such a bizarre position for people to take. Like hey let’s destroy the safeguards that protect us from those more powerful than us, and without the guardrails, we’ll be in equal footing!
What do you mean they can just mop the floor with us?
What do you mean they’ll still have money and power?
What do you mean it hasn’t ever really worked out the way I’m hoping it will?
There was a weird shift on this sub post Biden winning, like a demographic change or something, where a lot of those unhinged takes took off.